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Who says that? Certainly not me, I get accused daily of being an SE fanboy. Certainly not Michael Mace, if you read his blog as I did last night you'll find he is quite impartial. He comments on all parties whom he feels are affected by the Symbian changes.


Yes I know. Everyone knows. We know the statement off by heart.


And it was written as a windup for Nokia. Read the blog.



And you accidentally found the point of the iPhone. It brings in non-smart phone users to an Computer OS based device - an achievement in itself! My wife will have one soon but she'd never consider a Nokia Communicator or P1i. The 2.0 version broadens the appeal from upwardly mobile people to anyone who wants to surf the net easily on thier phone with or without Wifi and anyone who wants to use professional level Apps and games. Sounds like a good recipe for sales success to me, even though like you I prefer other devices.


I don't think ordinary consumers really get the Point of Difference of Android. If its only about open source then this Symbian announcement is a big problem for them. If its a platform for more Google advertising then many people like me won't be the slightest bit interested.

Apple have a serious head start over Android who have to start from scratch without the Mac and iPod user experience to leverage off. Good luck to them.



Agreed.

You constantly condemn SE as either inept or arrogant because they haven't built the Symbian UIQ device of your dreams. Surely with this change in the Symbian landscape we all now understand why. I think your critical assessments of SE have been wrong.
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Posted: 2008-06-30 12:09:06
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@carkitter

I think you will find that Android has a far wider audience then you think, just look at all the users that have G-Mail and also use Google Calender and Doc's. That will once Android launches have great access to those features. They will also not be locked down to just one device from one manufacturer either so there are many advantages these devices will offer over the iPhone. If the rumors are true some of these will also be the first devices running the next generation of chips also a big advantage over Apple. As for how much advertising they will carry who knows but most probably no more or less then when you visit any Google page would be my guess.

Again i have pointed out that we are seeing a major shift in smart phones from being the preserve of Business to hitting the main stream as they become far more focussed on Multimedia and this is where the real growth lies IMO.

As for my criticism of both SE and UIQ i stand by them both as quite simply UIQ3 when delivered wasn't fit to be released and it took well over 6 months to even get close to a releasable state. The lack of updated hardware and no HSDPA even now with their latest offerings is another factor. If SE had given UIQ the hardware upgrades and HSDPA it may well of been a very different story for them.
But currently SE has problems all around and it's hardly surprising is it, look at all the comments of missing features for the last two years and SE's inability to change and you have the answer as to why they are now 5th. They still somehow manage to have a loyal following but with an ever decreasing number of users and hence their results. There lack of innovation and churning out the same old thing in a new design and releasing buggy firmware has really started to hit them where it hurts and sorry but they deserve all they get for releasing such buggy products and giving such lousy customer service. Who but only the most loyal SE fan with put up with the K850 saga that 10 months on people are still getting BROD or are on their 4 or 5th handset. That's where SE's profit went as the Networks would charge back each return to them.

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Posted: 2008-06-30 13:53:59
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Nokia says 9 more firms sign up for Symbian pact
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Posted: 2008-07-10 12:15:49
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Great! The more the merrier. Personally, I wish we didn't have to wait this long.
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Posted: 2008-07-10 14:37:03
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Same here! But you get ppl that just prefer UIQ and state they "hate" S60 and feel that UIQ was doing very well.
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Posted: 2008-07-10 15:25:53
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I know. I prefer UIQ myself but I don't dislike S60 and honestly speaking UIQ and SE doomed the OS to failure by 'taking it easy'. It's a pity really that a good OS like that was made redundant thus bringing about its ultimate death so soon.

Having said that, I'm almost sure that the end product of this foundation will live up to (MY) expectations. Can't wait.
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Posted: 2008-07-10 15:52:42
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UIQ died with the P990, that's the sad truth. Unfortunately I can't stand S60, so that's Symbian dead as well, as far as I'm concerned.

Just torn now between sticking with WM, or branching off into Iphone territory.
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Posted: 2008-07-10 16:03:42
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True, the P990 was the end of UIQ.

I'm going WM (X1) within the next few months then back to Symbian probably 2010. If I love WM on the X1 I may just stick with the OS.

As for the Iphone I'm still not that impressed, I'd go so far as to say I don't like it. Maybe I will like the next iteration after the 3G one.
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