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@ Jojo,
Mick Doohan retired in 1999. In 2002, the first 4 stroke prototype 990cc machines were introduced alongside the wild 500cc 2 strokes. The following year all 500cc 2 strokes were phased out completely.
They still run 125cc and 250cc 2 stoke classes, but there's rumours that these will be replaced with 4 stroke alternatives sometime in the future.
Technology being what it is nowadays, the 990cc bikes were pushing out so much horsepower that the FIM insisted to lower the capacity of the 990cc machines to 800cc for 2007. However, the 800cc's are actually lapping even faster as they carry more corner speed and the manufacturers are already finding ways to make the speeds similar to the 990's...
They're around the 140-150kg mark and pushing out over 240 break horsepower! Insane power to weight ratios... thank goodness for modern electronics, like traction control, engine mapping selections, etc.
BTW, the race starts in half an hour..
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[ This Message was edited by: amawanqa on 2007-06-03 23:12 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-03 13:27:49
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Interesting iPhone article found on The Register..:
'Why Apple won't sell 10 million iPhones in 2008.
Free whitepaper Comment Steve Jobs sounds modest with his 2008 sales prediction: "10 million iPhones is one per cent of the mobile phone market". This is indeed true, but it's not a useful benchmark.
The vast majority of those phones are super cheap. The smartphone category, which is closest to iPhone territory, is very different. Symbian has sold 100 million smartphones in the last 10 years. BlackBerry hasn't reached the 10 million figure yet. It's a bit like saying the world car market is 18 million cars so McLaren can sell 180,000 because that's only one per cent. In practice, it sold 28 cars last year.
It would be surprising if iPhone accounted for one per cent of sales just within the one network which has been announced – AT&T. The network has 56.3 million subscribers but not all of them will get a new phone each year. Even so, half a million smartphones is a huge success.
Where Apple has gone wrong is in setting expectations. The phone will be late. All first smartphones are. The Nokia 7650 was late, the Ericsson P800 was nearly a year late. The amount of testing necessary for a new phone is incredible. And a new entrant has a worse time of it. The established players know the unwritten rules for getting phones accepted by each of the networks. They know which criteria are absolute and which can drift a little. It's a bit like getting your odd-ball car MOT'd by the garage which does all the work on it. They'll let some things through on the nod that a garage which had never seen a Marcos or Ultima before would fail the car on.
Apple has had the iPhone accepted by AT&T, which may waive the rules for its new best friend, and reportedly Rogers in Canada, but there are over 200 significant networks in the world and the networks buy 80 per cent of the world's handsets. They will want everything squeaky clean and tested. Apple must get into the networks. And that means a long testing courtship. Implementing the special features, such as visual mail, is going to be uphill.
Motorola announced a very similar system with the P1088, codenamed MAP, nearly a decade ago and failed to get the networks to support it. Apple has even less chance, or at least less chance of doing it in any sensible timescale. The networks don't like fiddling with their services. Just an hour of outage, even if it was just an hour of the SMS service dying with the messages stored and forwarded, would cost so much in lost customers it's not worth the risk. Each customer costs about $200 to acquire and a drop in service is the best way to lose them. Getting iPhone into a significant number of networks is going to be a problem. Even if there is central purchasing - as there is for Telefonica or Vodafone - the iPhone will still have to be sold by Apple to each of the individual countries within the empire and have to undergo local testing.
Remember, the mobile industry is one where some of the biggest companies in the world have tried and failed: Siemens, Philips, Fujitsu. None of them have creditable market shares. Even IBM put a toe in the water in the late nineties and then stayed away.
While iPhone sales volumes disappoint everyone, the device will not. It's the future direction of mobile gizmos. Most BlackBerry owners have a separate voice phone. The iPhone is a video iPod with a better screen that just happens to make phone calls. Over the next few years we'll see more mobile music devices, mobile organisers, mobile web browsers, and maybe mobile navigation devices, all of which happen to have a SIM card, and which can make calls - but making calls is a secondary use. Devices like this have been tried, but they've all been ahead of their time – not in technology terms, but in man-in-the-street acceptance.
The trick Apple has missed is downloadable music. This is usually seen by the geek community as being driven by the omission of 3G, but downloadable music could be done a different way: if you had a custom format, smaller sizes, with better compression. You'd need some other things, like a fast processor in the music player, but Apple has that. And you'd need to hold the custom format in an online database. For pretty much every other company in the world this would be a show-stopping problem. Only Apple can do this.
The iPhone, however, is good for the mobile phone world. It gives all the incumbents a shock in the user interface. Of course, we've yet to see quite how good it will be, but this is Apple and it's unlikely to be anything other than wonderful. It will also drive that man-in-the-street effect. People will start to want a connected music player. By the time the sat-nav in your car has a SIM, you have a mail device, music device, maybe even a digital camera, and of course a phone with a SIM, a mere billion phones a year starts to look small. This won't be 2008, maybe 2014, but even then one per cent looks to be aiming too high.'
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Posted: 2007-06-03 15:27:22
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Comparing Pearl Harbour with Matrix? Why don't you compare Nelson Mandela with Paris Hilton wont you...Matrix was good and so was Pearl Harbour, but I cant put movies like these against each other. Just too different. But thats just me.
So i started watching Heroes this weekend. I must say it got me on a unexpected spot. I did not realise it is that good. I like my superhero stories, not to the point where i buy comic books, but almost. Call it a keen interest. So seeing a show that is not Marvel or DC, but brilliant comic type story is so cool. And there are tons of comics on the net that go hand in hand with the show.
Yeah, about the proudly South African thing, i dont see how i can leave this country. It really is hard being a lighter-hue'ed male in my middle 20s(although getting a job is near impossible for all colours my age), but i am surviving. Will leave this beautiful country kicking and screaming if i had to.
So hear about the 12yr old that hacked a 10yr old to pieces? Scary!
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Posted: 2007-06-03 20:50:06
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I guess the rambling about Pearl Harbour and The Matrix Trilogy was purely based on what was personally enjoyed more by us, rather than any critical, analytical comparison between the two.
As you rightly point out, both are very different and fit into two totally different genres, thus it was never going to be a comparison founded on anything but personal preference from the outset.
Speaking of super heroes of sorts, I'm really sorry that I got rid of my comic collection which I had accumulated over the late '70's and '80's. If I see what some of them are worth to collectors on eBay nowadays...
Seen Spiderman 3 yet?
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Posted: 2007-06-03 21:04:40
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Yeah Francious.Also started watching Heroes and its pretty cool.I only enjoyed the first Matrix.It was nice and simple.They should have left it at that.Have to admit I havent seen Pearl Harbour.I-phone? Never really got into the whole I-pod thing.I had a Nokia 3300 Music phone around the time that came out and it did the job for me as a music player.Just think those things are so over priced.Wow! You should have seen the lightning here 10 minutes ago.And heavy thunder.Was awesome.My poor staffie is hiding in the shower.He hates thunder.Always heads to the shower whenever it thunders.Funniest thing.Hope you guys had a fatabulous weekend and for those of you striking tomorrow a VERY GOOD LUCK.
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Posted: 2007-06-03 23:01:44
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@da wanqsta: Something tells me iPhone will have a next-gen sibling by January...a year after it was announced. Don't know why Apple bothered with cellphones. Right now its quite messy unless you're Nokia or Samsung releasing re-hashed models six times a year. We might never see an iPhone down here, the phone would probably need 3G/HSDPA and some link to Vodafone Live for Vodacom to be slightly interested in subsidising its costs.
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Posted: 2007-06-03 23:08:00
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@ da brixsta,
Yeah, good point. I just hope that the iPhone doesn't prove to be Apple's Achille's heel, due to the cellphone industry and manufacturers like Nokia et al moving on by how much by the time it eventually hits the shelves on a few selected networks, and the seemingly over-optimistic sales projections at this very early stage, as in that article.
Good luck, Apple...
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Posted: 2007-06-03 23:47:17
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@ama - Thanks for the INFO about the GP Motorbike race mate . . . yup, me knows that Doohan retired some years ago . . . he was crippled or lost a LEG
Yup, it's very wrong to compare Pearl Harbor with that of Matrix(trilogy) . . . it should have been: Pear Harbor vs. Titanic ! Because both were made in the SEA . . .

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Posted: 2007-06-03 23:56:40
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LOL, can we then throw in Finding Nemo, The Abyss and Waterworld as well?
About Doohan, yeah he nearly lost his leg after a horrible accident on the Assen race track in The Netherlands back in 1992. Thanks to the renowned Dr Costa, his leg was saved.
When he had another accident during qualifying in '99, he decided to call it a day, with 5 consecutive 500cc world championships to his name he had nothing left to prove.
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[ This Message was edited by: amawanqa on 2007-06-03 23:11 ]
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Posted: 2007-06-04 00:04:25
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My problem is that i am very fussy that it has to be done right, and when that is in place, i enjoy it. But i cant seem to compare movies when i find them okay. Except for the really good ones, but then i speak about the ones that speak to me personally, like Shawshank Redemption. But funny enough i take movies as they were intended to be taken. I can watch a really bad movie, and if that was the point of the movie i can enjoy it. But then some movies just grind me. Like the Big Mammas house movies...i know this might make me unpopular, but those movies just grind me. I dont know why. I just find it painful to sit through them. Its like nails scratching a black board for me. But so far its only been the Big Mamma's house movies that has done it to me, and maybe the Nutty professor. Beyond that, i can stomach just about anything.
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Posted: 2007-06-04 01:20:57
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