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It will be hard to repeat the great success of K750.
The competition is so much harder today but this definitely can be the the recognition Sony Ericsson need.
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Posted: 2009-11-25 19:01:56
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I think the question is: Will this
still be the next K750....when it is released next year?
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Posted: 2009-11-25 21:16:53
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Hell no.
The K750i was a success because it was the first mainstream phone aimed at the mass market with a high quality camera and just as important: expandable memory. The K750i built on what the S700i delivered 12 months prior but all tucked inside a neat little affordable package.
The X10 like previous Xperia handsets is a phone not aimed at the masses. Its a high end phone for the geeks or mobile phone addicts like most people on this forum. It'll be great, but i have no doubts it'll fade into the background against competitors which will be released before or around the same time.
To be honest the more i scour this thread the more it appeals to me. I like the looks, styling, i like the interface and what is apparently possible with it. My main issue is its all a bit deja vu of the P990, and typical of SE. As a company SE are great at what they do, but they dont do what other manufacturers like Nokia do. They never release the perfect handset at that point in time. Theres no such thing as perfection but when a manufacturer releases a handset like the Nokia N95 was back in 2007 for a short time that device includes every feature you feel you could ever want.
Months prior to release, the X10 does not have every feature i want. So therefore in my mind alone the phone is a risky purchase.
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Posted: 2009-11-25 22:39:46
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You could consider the iPhone just a much a "high-end phone for the geeks or mobile phone addicts" yet it has mainstream appeal.
I'm not certain what SE's goal is here in terms of market, but i'd certainly not write it off yet.
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Posted: 2009-11-25 22:47:18
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From my observations, the iPhone is a huge success because it has a nice, user-friendly UI, and it is highly subsidized, making it somewhat affordable (at least in the US). To me, it looks like the X10 has an awesome UI, especially once they tweak it and speed up the SE parts of it, but I have no idea what the subsidized price of the phone will be. Us phone geeks are usually pretty willing to shell out a bunch of cash for these high-end phones, but the average Joe iPhone user wants something cheaper. So if the X10 gets picked up by carriers and is seriously subsidized, then I think it could do well. I know in most parts of the world other than North America, it's much more likely for the high-end phones to be picked up by carriers, but for the NAM people, we usually have to pay a premium if we want to have a "cool" phone. I wish people around me cared about their phones more! Then maybe we'd get the cool ones too!
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Posted: 2009-11-25 22:56:36
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I would completely disagree. The iPhone is aimed at the masses, thats why it is so simple in its operation and use. It appeals to anyone who likes all the flashy bells and whistles of its interface and a built in genuine iPod.
The iPhone has been labelled a smartphone ever since its upgrade came out which allowed third party apps. I on the other hand have realised it is a smartphone now that it has an open OS, but still wouldnt label it a true smartphone. It still lacks basic functions like Bluetooth file transfers. Its ridiculous.
Neither would i agree its a high end phone, it has hardly any hardware features which you would consider high end - low resolution camera (and its lack of hardware aspects such as a lens cover, photo light.. software aspects such as all the customisable options you'd get on a normal cameraphone), poor quality mono-speaker, removable battery, silly sim card holder. On the software side theres so much missing, but the most important one for me is multitasking.
How dare Apple call the iPhone a smartphone when you cannot even type a sms message whilst keeping other apps running in the background.
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Posted: 2009-11-25 22:56:58
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Look, i hate iPhone just as much as the next guy, but there's no denying their hardware, it may not have a top of the line camera, i don't even care for a camera. It did however both include accelerometer and a digital compass in the hardware, pretty early, and honestly the rest isn't even related to their hardware as such.
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Posted: 2009-11-26 00:12:16
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http://se-blog.com/report-and[....]om-the-local-xperia-x10-event/
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Posted: 2009-11-26 00:53:27
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On 2009-11-25 22:56:58, etaab wrote:
I on the other hand have realised it is a smartphone now that it has an open OS... How dare Apple call the iPhone a smartphone
Huh?
People (like you) call the iPhone a smartphone because it is a smartphone. There is not, and never has been, a hard and fast definition of that term which demands things like multitasking or supporting bluetooth file transfers - it's just a term that can be fairly applied to any phone open to development and use beyond traditional phone functions, which the iPhone platform clearly is - so much so that there exists an iPhone that's not actually an phone at all (the iPod Touch).
Since you've brought it up, the iPhone does multitask - for instance you can have a page loading in Safari in the background while you listen to your ipod and compose an email - the OS is perfectly capable of that. The restriction is simply that third party apps sold through the appstore cannot run in the background, because the SDK ensures they're written that way.
Neither would i agree its a high end phone, it has hardly any hardware features which you would consider high end
Sorry yes, I forgot that it was the Sony Ericsson X10 that first introduced a glass capacitive screen, multitouch, digital compass, accelerometer and proximity sensor...
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2009-11-26 07:48 ]
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Posted: 2009-11-26 08:24:25
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On 2009-11-26 08:24:25, Boinng wrote:
On 2009-11-25 22:56:58, etaab wrote:
I on the other hand have realised it is a smartphone now that it has an open OS... How dare Apple call the iPhone a smartphone
Huh?
People (like you) call the iPhone a smartphone because it is a smartphone. There is not, and never has been, a hard and fast definition of that term which demands things like multitasking or supporting bluetooth file transfers - it's just a term that can be fairly applied to any phone open to development and use beyond traditional phone functions, which the iPhone platform clearly is.
PS - for info, the iPhone does multitask - for instance you can have a page loading in Safari in the background while you listen to your ipod and compose an email - the OS is perfectly capable of that. The restriction is simply that third party apps sold through the appstore cannot run in the background (because they're written that way).
Neither would i agree its a high end phone, it has hardly any hardware features which you would consider high end
Sorry yes, I forgot that it was the Sony Ericsson X10 that first introduced a glass capacitive screen, multitouch, digital compass, accelerometer and proximity sensor...
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2009-11-26 07:36 ]
In that case all SE phones are Smartphones, they can run JAVA applications just fine, and do just about everything a iPhone can. On top of that they actually handled multitasking, and have done so for a long time...
Talking about iPhone, here is a size comparison on
youtube. I don't understand a word of what he is saying, but it seems that he likes how it feels in his hand.
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Posted: 2009-11-26 08:55:50
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