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I agree about aube but maybe it turned out to be too expensive. They discontinued the smart watch line in a finger snap.

We're pretty sure about one of the cams is ToF

That leaves the other two, and old aube needed both to have the same field of view. If they continue this they will end up with 3 cameras but only one angle.

If they use different focal lengths, aube as we know it would not be so useful.

UNLESS new aube needs only one sensor but that would be against its definition of "fusion" chip.
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Posted: 2019-01-29 20:57:32
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Lonewolf223 Posts: 361

There still a lot more to know about the cameras

Specifically the sensor size and focal lengths

Heyy tony can u give any new clues as ppl has successfully decoded ur code
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Posted: 2019-01-29 21:17:47
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RacSony Posts: > 500

yeah, tony, new one pls or my big (physically) sister will kick your ass.
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Posted: 2019-01-29 21:29:22
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Hawk12 Posts: > 500

Rac, I just said I wish Xperia with titanium frame.
Someone said that it is kinda impossible to see on any phone.
Then I saidI think Hydrogen has titanium body.

Without monochrome Aube is useless. It is only function is real time fusion.

Sony does not sell stacked sensor to other brands.
Samsung has an exmor because this one is a copy of their isocell.
Someone said here ppl on weibo say the 666 is not 1/1.8" but 1/1.5".
The cam hole of Compact's case is too big..
Almost as big as the Moto Z cam ring.

666 has DRAM ...
A9 is the only Apha to have this tech.
So this sensor must be the one ....
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Posted: 2019-01-29 21:49:42
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Nevewolf Posts: 128

Main functions of AUBE:
- Portrait mode
- High sensitivity in photos
- High sensitivity in videos

Without AUBE:
Bokeh:
If the rumor of Pixel Dual in the sensor is true, it would no longer need AUBE to create the mapping. (Google Pixel Mode) (besides the ToF sensor can do it too)

High sensitivity in photos:
At this point we already know that it is possible with a good software algorithm.

High sensitivity in videos:
At this time is the only reason to continue using Aube, BUT only if there is a monochrome sensor.


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Posted: 2019-01-30 01:50:00
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tonylcc Posts: 370


On 2019-01-29 17:52:14, Hawk12 wrote:
Tony , what I really need is:

- 6" 16:9 4K HDR CrystalLED
- Front speakers
- 5000 mAh
- Ufs3.0 32Gb
- 4 Gb ddr5
- 1/1.2" RGB + 1/1.2" mono, both working between 20 - 120mm and f1.7- 2.6
- 26MP RGB and 16MP mono
- AI Hybrid AF, Eye AF ( human and animal), real-time tracking : A9 is getting all in march update
- 5x optical zoom ( true optical, not fake like current phones)
- ISO 25600 video
- 1/2.3" 12MP f2.0 for video calls
- 4K30 HDR downsampled from 6K
- 1080@30 downsampled from 4K
- Titanium frame
- GG6
- Bezel size of xz3 ( grills with Z5 style)
- Colors : chrome and gold like z5p
- Power as FPS
- 760 nits
- X Pencil
- NFC wireless charging
- IBIS

This would be enough to satisfy me for 5 years ...

Sounds like you need a camera
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Posted: 2019-01-30 04:22:45
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Lonewolf223 Posts: 361

I agree with tony on this one

The camera expectations are too high but rest of the specs are doable with current technology
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Posted: 2019-01-30 05:02:18
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tai020381 Posts: > 500


On 2019-01-30 04:22:45, tonylcc wrote:

On 2019-01-29 17:52:14, Hawk12 wrote:
Tony , what I really need is:

- 6" 16:9 4K HDR CrystalLED
- Front speakers
- 5000 mAh
- Ufs3.0 32Gb
- 4 Gb ddr5
- 1/1.2" RGB + 1/1.2" mono, both working between 20 - 120mm and f1.7- 2.6
- 26MP RGB and 16MP mono
- AI Hybrid AF, Eye AF ( human and animal), real-time tracking : A9 is getting all in march update
- 5x optical zoom ( true optical, not fake like current phones)
- ISO 25600 video
- 1/2.3" 12MP f2.0 for video calls
- 4K30 HDR downsampled from 6K
- 1080@30 downsampled from 4K
- Titanium frame
- GG6
- Bezel size of xz3 ( grills with Z5 style)
- Colors : chrome and gold like z5p
- Power as FPS
- 760 nits
- X Pencil
- NFC wireless charging
- IBIS

This would be enough to satisfy me for 5 years ...

Sounds like you need a camera


4gb ram is not enough. Minimum 8gb sounds better. Sunlight legibility above 4000 . 32gb internal storage is too little too. Minimum 128gb.
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Posted: 2019-01-30 05:15:35
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AlvinZahranM Posts: > 500


On 2019-01-29 17:52:14, Hawk12 wrote:
Tony , what I really need is:

- 6" 16:9 4K HDR CrystalLED
- Front speakers
- 5000 mAh
- Ufs3.0 32Gb
- 4 Gb ddr5
- 1/1.2" RGB + 1/1.2" mono, both working between 20 - 120mm and f1.7- 2.6
- 26MP RGB and 16MP mono
- AI Hybrid AF, Eye AF ( human and animal), real-time tracking : A9 is getting all in march update
- 5x optical zoom ( true optical, not fake like current phones)
- ISO 25600 video
- 1/2.3" 12MP f2.0 for video calls
- 4K30 HDR downsampled from 6K
- 1080@30 downsampled from 4K
- Titanium frame
- GG6
- Bezel size of xz3 ( grills with Z5 style)
- Colors : chrome and gold like z5p
- Power as FPS
- 760 nits
- X Pencil
- NFC wireless charging
- IBIS

This would be enough to satisfy me for 5 years ...


1. Micro LED (or Crystal LED if you prefer) is almost impossible to develop for phones right now.
2. AI term used in phones are gimmicky, I hope you meant deep learning for autofocus.
3. Titanium frame? I really hope you meant titanium alloy since Titanium alone can't be used as a standalone material, the colour will be dull. Besides, the phone would get too heavy and people will complain (again). It is impossible to get colours other than the colour of the titanium itself (grey)
4. It's also impossible to make 1/2.3" sensor size for front camera since the bezels would get much bigger (unlrss sony is adapting sliding mechanism). The more important thing is still the algorithm, not how big the sensor size is.
5. For optical zoom in smartphone, we still need a telephoto sensor. It's still a fake Optical zoom if they don't use a telephoto sensor.
6. Smartphone cameras don't work like digital cameras. Phone cameras don't have the same lens type as dslr/mirrorless cameras, they don't have variable (adjustable) lens angle. Your phone is going to look like galaxy nx or galaxy camera if you want variable angle. So again, telephoto is needed for smartphones if you need optical zoom, at least for now.
7. 32GB ROM, 4GB RAM, and 16:9 ratio aren't up to par with today's standards. 64 or 128GB is the absolute minimum for ROM.
[ This Message was edited by: AlvinZahranM on 2019-01-30 04:33 ]

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Posted: 2019-01-30 05:25:12
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tonylcc Posts: 370

I want vibranium for the frame and powered by arc reactor
Built-in Friday

That's what you guys want as well, I guess?
[ This Message was edited by: tonylcc on 2019-01-30 04:54 ]

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Posted: 2019-01-30 05:54:24
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