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Lightspeed_x Posts: > 500

@RumrCollectr: AFAIK, IP55/58 == IP58. I mean, you can refer to dust and water protection both ways, so IP58 is a way to abbreviate the original specification.


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Posted: 2013-06-24 23:01:08
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xell Posts: > 500

specifying two of them, both different.

That's the whole point. It does not only offers protection against water that's just there up to a depth of more than 1m (IP58), it also is protected against water sprayed onto it with pressure (IP55), which is a totally different thing.
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Posted: 2013-06-24 23:02:09
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Felimenta97 Posts: > 500

AFAIK, the first digit is for dust, thus " Ingress of dust is not entirely prevented, but it must not enter in sufficient quantity to interfere with the satisfactory operation of the equipment; complete protection against contact" and second for liquid, thus " The equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer. Normally, this will mean that the equipment is hermetically sealed. However, with certain types of equipment, it can mean that water can enter but only in such a manner that it produces no harmful effects. "
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Posted: 2013-06-24 23:05:37
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-XYZ Posts: > 500

Incidentally, what time is Sony's little event in Asia in BST?
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Posted: 2013-06-24 23:09:30
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nodarsixar Posts: > 500

When is honami event?
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Posted: 2013-06-24 23:14:00
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RumrCollectr Posts: 37


On 2013-06-24 23:02:09, xell wrote:
specifying two of them, both different.

That's the whole point. It does not only offers protection against water that's just there up to a depth of more than 1m (IP58), it also is protected against water sprayed onto it with pressure (IP55), which is a totally different thing.



Why specify that though? The codes are ordered - if it meets IP58 then it also meets IP57 and IP56 and IP55 etc etc.

I mean when zomg says that the ZU is IP55/IP58 certified what is he trying to say? That it's good for continuous immersion in water beyond 1m but it can't handle temporary immersion of less than a meter?!

Is he trying to specify a range, i.e. "it might be IP55, it might be IP58, we're not sure yet"?

Is he trying to say "I don't get IP codes, it's 5 for dust and 8 for water, so read it as IP58"?

This practice of giving two IP codes for things seems to be common in rumours on this (and other) sites and it makes no sense.
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Posted: 2013-06-24 23:15:13
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sponse Posts: 252


On 2013-06-24 23:15:13, RumrCollectr wrote:

On 2013-06-24 23:02:09, xell wrote:
specifying two of them, both different.

That's the whole point. It does not only offers protection against water that's just there up to a depth of more than 1m (IP58), it also is protected against water sprayed onto it with pressure (IP55), which is a totally different thing.



Why specify that though? The codes are ordered - if it meets IP58 then it also meets IP57 and IP56 and IP55 etc etc.

I mean when zomg says that the ZU is IP55/IP58 certified what is he trying to say? That it's good for continuous immersion in water beyond 1m but it can't handle temporary immersion of less than a meter?!

Is he trying to specify a range, i.e. "it might be IP55, it might be IP58, we're not sure yet"?

Is he trying to say "I don't get IP codes, it's 5 for dust and 8 for water, so read it as IP58"?

This practice of giving two IP codes for things seems to be common in rumours on this (and other) sites and it makes no sense.


it's a marketing thing i think.
ip55/ip58 (looks more cool than "just" ip58) is the same as ip58.
it can be written also like that: ip5x/ipx8

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Posted: 2013-06-24 23:26:33
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calim Posts: 48

The first number, 5, is the same on both ratings and refers to dust. But lets skip that.

The second number 5, but also 8, refers to water. Since there are different criteria for the water rating it is not linear.

The five refers to water jets. Water that is shot at the device. 12.5 litres per minute at 30 kPa.

The eight refers to water immersion. Beyond 1 meter and the exact depth is specified by the manufacturer.

It is not simply IP58 since between IP55 and IP58 is IP56, where the six refers to powerful jets. The device is not "guaranteed" to manage water from a pressure washer for example.
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Posted: 2013-06-24 23:55:56
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Ricky D Posts: > 500

Event is 9am British Summer Time (Summer Time is not currently equal to GMT)
[ This Message was edited by: Ricky D on 2013-06-24 23:15 ]

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Posted: 2013-06-25 00:13:25
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stais Posts: 71


On 2013-06-24 23:55:56, calim wrote:
The first number, 5, is the same on both ratings and refers to dust. But lets skip that.

The second number 5, but also 8, refers to water. Since there are different criteria for the water rating it is not linear.

The five refers to water jets. Water that is shot at the device. 12.5 litres per minute at 30 kPa.

The eight refers to water immersion. Beyond 1 meter and the exact depth is specified by the manufacturer.

It is not simply IP58 since between IP55 and IP58 is IP56, where the six refers to powerful jets. The device is not "guaranteed" to manage water from a pressure washer for example.


Aahhh, I've also been wondering. Thanks for clarifying!
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Posted: 2013-06-25 00:37:03
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