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Ditto.
Besides, I think that the fastport has a more reliable plugging mechanism.
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Posted: 2008-03-09 12:28:54
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Fastport feels exclusive: that way no accessory feels cheap.
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Posted: 2008-03-09 12:48:20
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Hi all,

I actually think the reason it doesn't support M2 or have a Fast port is really very obvious and simple, it is a HTC product being re badged with some tweaked software for SE. As mentioned by others WM doesn't support M2 cards and obviously the HTC hardware is built round the most standard accessories which is mini USB adding a fast port just for SE was either not practical or to expensive to be done.

Marc

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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-03-09 12:34 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-09 13:33:27
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Marc is right. You can all thank HTC for that one.
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Posted: 2008-03-09 16:02:19
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HHmm... have not been here for awhile now.... and I'm missing alot here!!
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Posted: 2008-03-09 17:18:54
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I agree with razec, that usb mini plug isn't the most hardiest of connectors. fastport suffers from getting dirty easily, but once cleaned it's good as new - plus it's easy to damage fastport, yet I've seen a few phones lose their usbmini plug (ripped right of the pcb) from people who flex the connection too much.

USB mini plug is better from a compatibility stnadpoint, but fast port is a superior connector (same theory applies to the Nokia pop port connector)
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Posted: 2008-03-10 00:20:24
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@Max,

Sorry but i really can't agree with that the Nokia pop port was notorious for not being a robust connection and over time would result in unstable connections. Mini USB on the other hand is rock solid stable and doesn't degenerate over time how ever many times it is used, i really can't imagine the amount of abuse needed to pull a USB connection out of a devcie but it does suggest massive abuse of the devcie and a total lack of care. Really look at a mini USB that plug 's in and it is a much more robust solution to pins that are exposed and liable to wear and damage well that's MO.


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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-03-09 23:39 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-10 00:38:41
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micro d is far better solution ( and more cheaper ) then m2. it cost almost the half as m2, and with the right adapters u can use it in so mayn devices, laptops, pc etc with m2 u are limited
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Posted: 2008-03-10 01:03:39
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it's not the in/out force that damages usbmini plugs, but the flexing of the cable up/down and left/right. I've seen people's usb mini ports literally fall out of the device (prised off the pcb by the up/down and lateral flexing of the cable while in the port). Even if not ripped off the pcb, the lateral flexing causes the cable to not fit tight or make intermittant connections, where you have to hold the cable in to get a stable connection.

I agree you'd have to be abusive but being abusive to the fastport doesn't damage it. The pop port and fastport both need to be kept clean, if they are they don't degrade.

I agree the people I've seen this happen to are pretty slack and tend to yank on the cable and pull it this way and that without concern for damaging it, but if they did the same thing to fastport it wouldn't do damage.

Fastport and pop port are exposed and tend to suffer from dead skin (dead skin is very greasy) and other crap fowling them up and also suffer more from oxidisation. A good clean has in every case fixed any fastport I've had problems with. (Don't know about pop port - I only have the N70 and I don't use it everyday).

You yourself dogmann I expect take good care of your equipment, so you'd never suffer from usb mini plug problems.



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[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2008-03-10 04:30 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-10 04:37:53
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@Marc

Xperia don't use m2/MS cards because the CPU(qualcomm MSM7200a CPU) itself is binary incompatible with the card format as it only supports SD/MMC at the moment. and WM OS supports memory stick format. WMs are basically a mobile edition of the desktop Windows OS in which the basic API feature set found on the desktop is also foun on the mobile version. also remember that other laptop manufacturers besides Sony itself e.g. ASUS, Acer, etc incorporates memory stick slots as well( which imo doesn't begget much costlier expenses in developing/integrating) the big issue right there is the CPU used in the phone. if they used the HTC's standard TI-OMAP chip then X1 can use the MS cards or even make it dual format like the one found in K850



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[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2008-03-10 06:45 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-10 07:31:57
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