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Foxhunter Posts: 318

Exactly!!! And of course I know that the P5i will have more updated specs regarding screen resolution, size, weight, camera, but my point in a way was that S/E in about 5 to ? months will release a new smartphone that allmost is matched with the present Tytn 2 - then it's up to people to decide if they want UIQ or Windows...
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Posted: 2007-12-17 20:11:47
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isadouglas Posts: 31

Whilst i don't actually have a TytN 11 i can and do appreciate all that it has especially the obvious improvements that WM6 has brought, but unfortunately for some on this Forum if it's not from SE or a UIQ smart phone of course it's buggy slow and crashes. They aren't going to let a little thing like facts get in the way of their bias either. So sad that apparently intelligent people can turn into gibbering idiots and all because they are biased towards SE.

Marc

Not nice Marc , to start name calling just because you desagree..
I had SE for 6 years ( p800, p910) and it was a nice phone, but I have to say windows has come a long way and honestly I got tired of waiting for the w 960 and Im glad I did.
This htc tytn ll its a little rocket and windows media is just fine..
Don't be a dog man!!!
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Posted: 2007-12-17 20:51:30
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koto Posts: > 500

@isadouglas
lol....I believe dogmann lives in London which means his english is perfect. How did you come to that interpretation:)
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Posted: 2007-12-17 20:59:15
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Dogmann Posts: > 500

@isadouglas

Well you have completely at utterly lost me with your post just what do you think i have said that is so bad? and it definitely wasn't directed at you either it was directed at those that are complaining about how bad WM6 without any knowledge of it. As i think you have definitely chosen the best device for you needs from what you have said.

A very confused Dogmann and that doesn't happen often either.

Marc

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Posted: 2007-12-18 00:58:26
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drgopoos Posts: 307

To say WM 6 is fully stable is definitely not true. It has issues and plenty. But then i would say UIQ is even worse.,and Nokia e90 is also not a good experience.
One smart phone that never let me down was P910i. But its an old story now.

So among all the unstable platforms WM6 is the better one. The main reason being the availability of excellent third party applications and xda developers who cook very stable and fast roms.

If uiq or s60 opens up, windows will stand nowhere.

Every one knows mac is better than windows but why does most of us go and buy windows ?
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Posted: 2007-12-18 01:38:26
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Nipsen Posts: > 500

..buy? If you mean, "it came with the hard- drive", or "and I had to use it because the support- people at work and the online office solution requires it", then I suppose "buy" is what people do. I was a paying betatester for Windows for five years. My brother considers himself a Windows addict. I know a guy who has a breakdown if his desktop changes. So I'm not sure "buy", really covers the situation all that well

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Posted: 2007-12-18 03:12:06
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isadouglas Posts: 31

@ Dogmann

Sorry I wasn't trying to confuse you, I guess I misundertood you...
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Posted: 2007-12-18 04:27:38
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anonymuser Posts: > 500


On 2007-12-18 01:38:26, drgopoos wrote:
To say WM 6 is fully stable is definitely not true. It has issues and plenty.


You're sure of that? I can only speak as I find, and on my Tytn II runing the stock HTC rom I find none of these "plenty" issues. can you give some examples?

it seems to me that the OS itself is perfectly sound, it's simply let down on occasion by poorly implemented hardware and third party add-ons.

considering the Tytn II is a relatively new phone running its first release firmware, its stability is nothing short of amazing next to any recent UIQ phone.

One smart phone that never let me down was P910i. But its an old story now.


I had the P910 too, and if I was going to compare the Tytn II to anything, that would be it.

Every one knows mac is better than windows but why does most of us go and buy windows


Pardon? sorry, but that's nonsense. I've used a mac, it's fine, but i've been a happy windows user for many years and I don't see that changing anytime soon. I won't repeat your mistake and try to speak for everyone else, but I buy windows (generally on a windows pc) because it's a good reliable OS that works well, is simple and familiar to use, and has the best software and hardware support bar none. if that's somehow the 'wrong' reasons to choose an OS i'd like to know what the right ones are.

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Posted: 2007-12-18 08:08:44
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701 Posts: > 500


On 2007-12-18 04:27:38, isadouglas wrote:
@ Dogmann

Sorry I wasn't trying to confuse you, I guess I misundertood you...

Actually, you didn't misunderstand him. He goes around calling "idiots" people that disagree with his opinions. If you dig around you'll find all the posts he wrote about how good Nokia is and how bad SE is. Turning every thread into a flamewar is not an inteligent thing to do.
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On 2007-12-17 11:29:56, Boinng wrote:

On 2007-12-17 09:28:45, 701 wrote:
I'd say quite the opposite: if you want a STABLE device, get a P1i. I used to use Jamin, Tytn 1 and P3600 and they have one thing in common: install more than 5 apps on it and it'll become very unstable. Always had to soft reset, the programs became corrupted some times and I had to reinstall it. This never changed fo WM devices. It has a reset button...


701 - what makes you think that your experience of the original Tytn gives you more knowledge of the Tytn II than those of us actually using the Tytn II??


Hey, like it or not that's my opinion, exactly as I wrote it above. I buy my phones based on previous experience. And knowing that WM06 is NOT a brand new OS, I still have my doubts about it. Would you like me to stop posting my opinions here, now? And one more thing: if you would read the whole thread you'll see I tested a Tytn2 just days ago. I just thought I don't have to mention it everytime to make a point.

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Posted: 2007-12-18 09:01:26
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anonymuser Posts: > 500


On 2007-12-18 09:01:26, 701 wrote:
Hey, like it or not that's my opinion, exactly as I wrote it above. I buy my phones based on previous experience. And knowing that WM06 is NOT a brand new OS, I still have my doubts about it.


You're entitled to your opinion sure, but if it seems worthless in the context of a thread full of people who actually know the facts of the phone and OS in question, someone's probably going to point that out - and this case that's me.

When you've got umpteen Tytn II owners posting that the Tytn II is stable, posting that it can't be because you didn't like your Tytn I is just a bit, well, silly. And unhelpful.

Would you like me to stop posting my opinions here, now?


Well I wouldn't miss them personally, if that's what you're asking. I don't really care either way. Post something worthwhile and maybe my opinion will change.

And one more thing: if you would read the whole thread you'll see I tested a Tytn2 just days ago. I just thought I don't have to mention it everytime to make a point.


Oh, right, you "tested" a Tytn II eh? What did you do, crash test it? Expose it to a naked flame? What were the results of your "test"? I'd have thought they'd be more pertinent to this thread than your opinion of various older WM5 models. But bear in mind that many of us have been "testing" the Tytn II for a longer...
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Posted: 2007-12-18 10:40:04
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