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max, no, its one touch away...an example: you have some contact you text alot...well, you assign a virtual button to it, with a photo icon if you want, then to send a sms to that person you press that icon, write the message and send, as simple as that. i really dont know what you are talking about...you dont need lots of scrolling to find the shortcuts...if you have alot of those, you organize them on pages, then just change page with a hw key or virtual key, and use the finger to select what you want to do. at the same time you can bind hardware keys, that are alot on a qwerty, to what shortcuts you want

[ This Message was edited by: ares on 2007-12-16 13:41 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-16 14:36:18
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max_wedge have you used gdesk ?

I think your generalisation is unfair and inaccurate.

Gdesk takes UIQ 3 to the level of customisability and usability it should have had in the first place.

Fully customisable shortcuts are available for virtually every app / function in the phone (barring those few blocked by Symbian eg keylock / mute button).

Plus any of them can be assigned to a designated qwerty key.

No furious scrolling, no mother of a list of options involved.
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Posted: 2007-12-16 16:34:31
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Yep. I blame Microsoft . There are implementations on the UI framework level that has an impact on memory handling and so on, though. And all the gui- stuff are written in the same way as any other program for symbian, so the OS just provides a framework to execute code on. It's not like the task- manager is the same program, or that the code is essentially the same when it's executed. So it's not exactly correct to say UIQ or S60 is an OS - but it's not correct to say it's just an UI either, and then conclude s60 and UIQ should technically be performing equally bad (or good). It's not as easy as that when you're writing code that's supposed to conserve ram and cpu cycles, and so on. So, there are APIs that do similar tasks, and are called the same way with identical code from the program level - but some APIs are deliberately written differently on s60 and UIQ, and you notice that if you test the units side by side.

I mean, I'm sure most of the differences are obscure details about names on flags, or orders in queues. But if the apps are generally written to throw away as much temporary information as possible, only save certain states on context- shifts, and not really be designed to continue to run in the background... And the programs (and the apis they use) are supposed to be closed down every time you exit the screens, or the task is complete, and so on - then you can get away with much less code, less ram, and much quicker execution times. And fewer pauses sometimes, and so on.
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Posted: 2007-12-16 21:07:26
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Sorry, Nipsen. I know it's not correct to call them operating systems - that's Symbian. S60 and UIQ are user interfaces, but most people just call them operating systems, so I didn't want to make it hard to understand
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Posted: 2007-12-16 22:37:08
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can you guys read??? The point I was making you need a touchscreen to take advantage of that kind of customisation. In other words I'm sticking up for your point of view. The furious scrolling is what you have to do on a hardscreen... Sheesh....

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[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2007-12-17 00:07 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-17 01:02:50
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..kind of tests your patience, doesn't it.
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Posted: 2007-12-17 03:14:57
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having about every device out there like a lot of you. i honestly think SE is in one of the best positions if they can bring out a product that sparks enough interest..

i loved my iphone ts, and can accept my n82 as a hardkey phone.. but honestly se's use of TS and Hardkeys is the best solution imo... 2 ways to do everything... the ony reason i bailed on my p1i was because it just lacked the hardware that i wanted and the UI just isn't quite there.. but if they can learn just a little more and make an appealing product i think they could convert a lot of iphone and s60 users...

i really want to see if the p5i will do just that...
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Posted: 2007-12-17 03:57:32
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Starting a program is not an issue even with S60. If you follow position key, you need ONLY 2 or 3 keypress to start any program (as long as you dont have more than 144 of them). I dont think UIQ3 can do much better than this. BUT the selecting option from a LIST/MENU is faster using TS.

I think nobody is disputing that TS gives faster navigation in general. But the inherent BIGGEST drawback of using TS (whether UIQ3/WM) is that you need BOTH hands to use. And it is a chore (esp. when you are on the go) to flip out the stylus or use your other hand's finger to poke the screen. And from an ergonomic point of view TS is more tiring to use as you need bigger hand/finger movement. I have a tablet PC but I seldom use the TS but prefer the mouse (i.e. minimal hand movement).

So, IMO, to think a TS UI is all benefit over a hardscreen and none of the bane is very incorrect indeed.



[ This Message was edited by: mib1800 on 2007-12-17 05:19 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-17 06:17:40
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Hence, the beauty of the P990, and its option for true single-handed navigation via FC. I've said it before and I'll say it again, BRING BACK THE FLIP!
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Posted: 2007-12-17 10:25:27
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One thing for sure; Apple has raised the bar of OS and UI quality. I have the P1; I bought it because of its good body build,size, price/features ratio and acquaintance with SE phones. I would never say UIQ3 is the best OS or UI;It is OK but S60 and ofcourse Apple's OS is far easier and intuitive.
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Posted: 2007-12-17 10:55:18
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