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Congrats you guys. You have turned yet another thread into a SE-Nokia war field.
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Posted: 2009-03-06 09:14:45
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I would definitely choose W995 over N96 and Idou over N97, although I probably won't buy any of the two because I prefer smaller and slimmer phones.
I will probably buy C901 if it comes out, but unfortunately the destiny of this phone is uncertain for some mysterious reasons.
[ This Message was edited by: ardzuna on 2009-03-06 08:20 ]
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Posted: 2009-03-06 09:16:05
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On 2009-03-06 07:14:43, QVGA wrote:
On 2009-03-06 02:20:16, mode wrote:
On 2009-03-05 17:42:24, QVGA wrote:
On 2009-03-05 15:22:31, mode wrote:
@Brightspark
I disagree that premium headsets out of the box is all they have going. Try plugging HPM-77 out of a W902 box into a 'DSP' equipped, multimedia powerhouse N96 and compare. You'll then have the epiphany of how little you know.
[ This Message was edited by: mode on 2009-03-05 15:11 ]
Or an epiphany of how little YOU know. Get an unbiased pair of headphones and try out N95 or N81 or N91 or N85 with any SE you want. i dont know why people think pumping bass suddenly translates into good sound quality,
W902/W760/W980 against N95? Oh wait, N95 has dsp so no contest there. Pffh...there goes the 'sea' of knowledge you have.
my sea of knowledge is enough to drown you my man. All new nokia phones have DSP or some sort of dedicated audio hardware acceleration! No SE phone ever released had any DSP.
Take the very cheap 5320 against W902 which is twice the price, 5320 wins hands down.
Thanks for proving my point. You take in all the Nokia technological sales ploy seriously like some of the 16m colour displays which ends up looking bland beside some of SE's 262k screen. N95 sounds even worse than N96 where I did an apple to apple comparison with all 3 phones. Just drop your nonsense and go sleep with your beloved dsp tonight. Look, I wish SE would implement dsp in their phones too but I also give credit where it's due
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Posted: 2009-03-06 09:42:35
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On 2009-03-06 09:42:35, mode wrote:
On 2009-03-06 07:14:43, QVGA wrote:
On 2009-03-06 02:20:16, mode wrote:
On 2009-03-05 17:42:24, QVGA wrote:
On 2009-03-05 15:22:31, mode wrote:
@Brightspark
I disagree that premium headsets out of the box is all they have going. Try plugging HPM-77 out of a W902 box into a 'DSP' equipped, multimedia powerhouse N96 and compare. You'll then have the epiphany of how little you know.
[ This Message was edited by: mode on 2009-03-05 15:11 ]
Or an epiphany of how little YOU know. Get an unbiased pair of headphones and try out N95 or N81 or N91 or N85 with any SE you want. i dont know why people think pumping bass suddenly translates into good sound quality,
W902/W760/W980 against N95? Oh wait, N95 has dsp so no contest there. Pffh...there goes the 'sea' of knowledge you have.
my sea of knowledge is enough to drown you my man. All new nokia phones have DSP or some sort of dedicated audio hardware acceleration! No SE phone ever released had any DSP.
Take the very cheap 5320 against W902 which is twice the price, 5320 wins hands down.
Thanks for proving my point. You take in all the Nokia technological sales ploy seriously like some of the 16m colour displays which ends up looking bland beside some of SE's 262k screen. N95 sounds even worse than N96 where I did an apple to apple comparison with all 3 phones. Just drop your nonsense and go sleep with your beloved dsp tonight. Look, I wish SE would implement dsp in their phones too but I also give credit where it's due
I believe there is an actual DSP because nokias ACTUALLY sound better than SE. whether you want to believe that or not, i could not care less.
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Posted: 2009-03-06 09:47:12
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@QVGA, what u said is not actually true. My brother has both 5320xpress music and W910i. He is a nokia fan and he says the music quality of W910 is twice better than 5320.
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Posted: 2009-03-06 11:57:00
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On 2009-03-06 07:27:15, driftmania wrote:
Even the 5310 beats SE's in audio quality.
Not exactly - figures below taken from audio lab tests taken by GSMArena. Link here :
http://www.gsmarena.com/latest_features-review-171p2.php
Full audio review of the 5310 here :
http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_5310_xpressmusic-review-203p5.php
FQ - Frequency Response, low absolute numbers at either end are good
NL - Noise Level, the higher the absolute number the better
DR - Dynamic Range, the higher the number the greater the DR
THD - Total Harmonic Distortion, the lower the number the better
IMD - Intermodulation Distortion, the lower the number the better
SC - Stereo Crosstalk (signal leakage from left to right channel & vice versa), the higher the absolute number the better
------------------------FQ------------NL------DR-------THD----IMD------SC
Nokia 5310^^^^+0.29, -1.69^^^^^-94.4^^92.0^^^^0.015^^0.491^^-73.8
SEricsK770^^^^+0.21, -1.04^^ ^^^-85.7^^88.8^^^^0.014^^0.030^^-84.8
SEricsK850^^^^+0.21, -1.04^^ ^^^-85.7^^88.8^^^^0.014^^0.030^^-84.8
SEricW910^^^^+0.25, -1.25^^ ^^^-81.5^^82.7^^^^0.0071^0.028^^-81.9
SEricW980^^^^+0.31, -1.25^^ ^^^-86.0^^89.4^^^^0.037^^0.828^^-86.3
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In summary :
*the FQ of all the SE phones in the list are better than the 5310 which means the SE phones come closer to letting you hear the music as it was recorded.
*The NL (or signal to noise ratio) of the 5310 is superior to the SE phones.
* The DR of the 5310 is better than the SE phones, which means it reproduces quiet sounds & loud sounds accurately at the same time
* The 5310 is second to the worst in terms of distortion (only the W980 is worse)
* The 5310 is the worst in terms of SC
[ This Message was edited by: NoroBiik on 2009-03-06 12:19 ]
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Posted: 2009-03-06 13:11:51
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This is a sweet moment for me considering how arrogant QVGA has been. But I have to say, really, W910 audio stinks all the way up to high heaven lol
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Posted: 2009-03-06 13:37:37
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numbers for W910 are only half truth, better half. here is all truth...
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Posted: 2009-03-06 14:07:27
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Thanks guys, I'm gonna build my own phone.
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Posted: 2009-03-06 14:15:13
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If people couldn't care less about a thing, why do they bother defaming the thing? The way I see it now, I kinda agree with the opinion that Eldar has been so harsh with SE because he was a true SE fan in the first place.
Why go into details of what Symbian devices can do? We all know that it's a powerful platform but if it's the ultimate OS, why are there sophisticated people (like Boinng and some other Esato old-timers) who go the Apple way?
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Posted: 2009-03-06 14:54:23
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