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cool_sauce Posts: 354

All S20/S20+ phones are speced for 960fps@720p only which leads me to believe they don't have dram either and instead they are utilizing CPU for either native 960fps or software interpolation. Ultra on the other hand can only do 480fps@720p which is then interpolated to 960fps. Samsung's super slow motion has always been inferior to Sony's in picture quality especially in 1080p but they were the only two manufacturers to offer it, Huawei has really struggled to achieve it with as software solution as it's evidently a lot worse than Samsung and Sony altogether.

On subject of Ultra here is my opinion: it's a marketing move to make you buy S20/S20+ instead and Samsung is the king of Android marketing. They know S20 combo would not generate enough buzz so they came up with Ultra to get the talk rolling all over again. It's the sole reason why Ultra was available for review before regular S20s. Samsung knows very few will throw $1500 at Ultra but many will go for S20 based off Ultra brand. That's something Sony had missed out on since introduction of Xperia 1 and Xperia 5 was six months apart. From what I remember original plan for XZ2 family was to introduce Premium, Regular and Compact at the same time and then introduce XZ3 (XZ2 facelift) in the fall which was perfect scenario but it fell through because Premium had last minute changes or God knows what. Maybe Sony could have taken into consideration to release Xperia 1II and Xperia 5II (smaller screen, resolution and inferior camera stack) at the same time and then do the Xperia 3 which could be a combo of features between 1II and 5II in the fall, like best of both worlds or something.
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Posted: 2020-02-29 13:37:36
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tai020381 Posts: > 500

Talking about in Chinese though

https://youtu.be/g0ohULuyPwU

Minute 14.40 THE REAL PURPLE PHONE!!!!! Its back is glossy!!
[ This Message was edited by: tai020381 on 2020-02-29 13:01 ]

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Posted: 2020-02-29 13:54:11
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Hawk12 Posts: > 500

https://androidnext.info/?p=2490

Does this mean deal with AT&T?
Are they using the new FPS or paying royalties to Apple?

I could not find if the Shutter is still up to 30s and iso values.
[ This Message was edited by: Hawk12 on 2020-02-29 14:03 ]

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Posted: 2020-02-29 14:15:37
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Shino03 Posts: > 500


On 2020-02-29 13:37:36, cool_sauce wrote:
All S20/S20+ phones are speced for 960fps@720p only which leads me to believe they don't have dram either and instead they are utilizing CPU for either native 960fps or software interpolation. Ultra on the other hand can only do 480fps@720p which is then interpolated to 960fps. Samsung's super slow motion has always been inferior to Sony's in picture quality especially in 1080p but they were the only two manufacturers to offer it, Huawei has really struggled to achieve it with as software solution as it's evidently a lot worse than Samsung and Sony altogether.

On subject of Ultra here is my opinion: it's a marketing move to make you buy S20/S20+ instead and Samsung is the king of Android marketing. They know S20 combo would not generate enough buzz so they came up with Ultra to get the talk rolling all over again. It's the sole reason why Ultra was available for review before regular S20s. Samsung knows very few will throw $1500 at Ultra but many will go for S20 based off Ultra brand. That's something Sony had missed out on since introduction of Xperia 1 and Xperia 5 was six months apart. From what I remember original plan for XZ2 family was to introduce Premium, Regular and Compact at the same time and then introduce XZ3 (XZ2 facelift) in the fall which was perfect scenario but it fell through because Premium had last minute changes or God knows what. Maybe Sony could have taken into consideration to release Xperia 1II and Xperia 5II (smaller screen, resolution and inferior camera stack) at the same time and then do the Xperia 3 which could be a combo of features between 1II and 5II in the fall, like best of both worlds or something.



I agree to this.

The Ultra was just meant for marketing hype. Most people will be contented with less features than the ultra especially if it will be cheaper and less obtrusive.
[ This Message was edited by: Shino03 on 2020-02-29 14:56 ]

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Posted: 2020-02-29 15:51:17
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tai020381 Posts: > 500

Anyway here's the removed review :

https://youtu.be/LRid9oPOo40


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Posted: 2020-02-29 16:30:44
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blackzeros Posts: 381


On 2020-02-29 13:37:36, cool_sauce wrote:


On subject of Ultra here is my opinion: it's a marketing move to make you buy S20/S20+ instead and Samsung is the king of Android marketing. They know S20 combo would not generate enough buzz so they came up with Ultra to get the talk rolling all over again. It's the sole reason why Ultra was available for review before regular S20s. Samsung knows very few will throw $1500 at Ultra but many will go for S20 based off Ultra brand. That's something Sony had missed out on since introduction of Xperia 1 and Xperia 5 was six months apart. From what I remember original plan for XZ2 family was to introduce Premium, Regular and Compact at the same time and then introduce XZ3 (XZ2 facelift) in the fall which was perfect scenario but it fell through because Premium had last minute changes or God knows what. Maybe Sony could have taken into consideration to release Xperia 1II and Xperia 5II (smaller screen, resolution and inferior camera stack) at the same time and then do the Xperia 3 which could be a combo of features between 1II and 5II in the fall, like best of both worlds or something.


i'm not sure about how they handle 108 mp data but sensor is really big, and without dram sensor heat can be a big problem.maybe this is why ultra can only do 480 fps.

i thik sony can put 720@480fps at least but they can say now that we choose resolution over fps (2k@120 fps) even though real reason is dramless sensor.


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Posted: 2020-02-29 17:05:04
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XperiaJunkie Posts: > 500

Xperia 1 official promo video released a year ago has 901k views to date. https://youtu.be/wlj6FEV2ols

Xperia 1 II official promo video released less than a week ago already has 2 million views. https://youtu.be/EMqgyJjrY8k

People are starting to notice the new flagship which can only be good for sales.
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Posted: 2020-02-29 23:15:14
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Hawk12 Posts: > 500

Curious to see if powerful people at Sony use Xperia or iphone.
Even Huawei owner and his family have tons of apple stuff.

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Posted: 2020-03-01 00:35:56
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moogoo Posts: > 500


On 2020-02-29 23:15:14, XperiaJunkie wrote:
Xperia 1 official promo video released a year ago has 901k views to date. https://youtu.be/wlj6FEV2ols
Xperia 1 II official promo video released less than a week ago already has 2 million views. https://youtu.be/EMqgyJjrY8k
People are starting to notice the new flagship which can only be good for sales.


Let's hope they continue the hype until it's out
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Posted: 2020-03-01 02:38:01
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tai020381 Posts: > 500


On 2020-02-29 23:15:14, XperiaJunkie wrote:
Xperia 1 official promo video released a year ago has 901k views to date. https://youtu.be/wlj6FEV2ols

Xperia 1 II official promo video released less than a week ago already has 2 million views. https://youtu.be/EMqgyJjrY8k

People are starting to notice the new flagship which can only be good for sales.



And lets hope the 2 million viewers are buying the phone as well as sharing the video!
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Posted: 2020-03-01 03:28:28
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