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absinthebri Posts: 476

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On 2005-01-23 17:06:00, Sammy_boy wrote:
er.... wasn't there someone called Mohammed Atta on one of them, who flew one plane into the WTC?

They got on due to poor airport security.

It's really that simple.

And where's the evidence to suggest it was the CIA/Mossad/George Bush/Kate Bush/ The Two Ronnies/insert person or organisation of your choice?

I still think it's a bit far to go for cheaper oil, even by that idiot Bush's standards



I'm talking specifically of AA77, the plane that, er, vapourized upon hitting the Pentagon. The passenger manifest is public. CNN (and other news organisations) have published it. Who were the hijackers? Which of the passengers have 'Arab' names? Whodunnit?
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Posted: 2005-01-23 17:09:48
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Bammers Posts: 250

Thankyou sammy boy, some people just dont have any idea about plane building do they! Planes, as you say, are actually quite fragile, designed to take forces in certain ways. Look at a paper tube, will hold quite a large weight one way, but put that weight on the side of the tube and it collapses quickly. So thin metal and a large amount of jet fuel hitting reinforced concrete? I know which my money would be on surviving!

Anyone ever seen the film of the test carried out which flew a jet plane into a concrete block? Plane vaporised with just the ends of the wings carrying on as the wings were wider than the block, very impressive. Its put on Sky sometimes in some programme about "spectacular tests" or something.
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Posted: 2005-01-23 17:11:11
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absinthebri Posts: 476

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On 2005-01-23 17:08:08, slattery69 wrote:
i didnt realise that you had to be an arab to join bin ladens merrymen, or that if you hijacked a plane you had to go and buy a ticket and give your real name. internal flights in the us at the time were like buses in the uk they came you got on


Even on September 11 2001 every passenger in the US had to produce official (i.e. Government agency (passport, driving licence)) photo ID to fly.
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Posted: 2005-01-23 17:25:08
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slattery69 Posts: > 500

i see i guess they must be hard to get hold of since a bloke down the pub i go to sells various ids

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Posted: 2005-01-23 18:04:40
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Bammers Posts: 250

There was a book written a good few years ago called day of the jackal. Read it and you will realise just how easy it is to obtain official id. No need to buy it off some dodgy bloke in the pub!
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Posted: 2005-01-23 19:20:23
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slattery69 Posts: > 500

yes ive read it was just really pointing out thats getting id is nt really complicated. also just cause they say you need something doesnt mean anyone checks it, how often do you get on a bus with an old ticket and noone checks it. on my debt card my signature has worn off yet noone checks it when i buy stuff.
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Posted: 2005-01-23 19:35:43
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absinthebri Posts: 476

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On 2005-01-23 19:35:43, slattery69 wrote:
yes ive read it was just really pointing out thats getting id is nt really complicated. also just cause they say you need something doesnt mean anyone checks it, how often do you get on a bus with an old ticket and noone checks it. on my debt card my signature has worn off yet noone checks it when i buy stuff.


So, you're saying the Authorities were so negligent in their duties they conspired with the "hijackers" (the ones no-one has any record of boarding the plane)?
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Posted: 2005-01-23 20:15:57
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slattery69 Posts: > 500

been neglicant doesnt mean they conspirsed with the terrorists. the bit that i dont get and it maybe been ignorant is , the consiprsey thoery is that the us gov did the attacks to wage there war for oil(still think its a bit ott to kill so many) and to do this they need to blame the arab world. so the most important part of the consipresy is to blame arabs and during there carefully planned attack they forget to put some arabs sounding names on the plane that does nt sound right to me since if they did nt plant the peoples names how could they blame them
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Posted: 2005-01-23 20:20:50
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absinthebri Posts: 476

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On 2005-01-23 20:20:50, slattery69 wrote:
[...] the bit that i dont get and it maybe been ignorant is , the consiprsey thoery is that the us gov did the attacks to wage there war for oil [...]


I didn't say that.

I have no idea who did it or why.

All I'm saying is that the official version of events is clearly untrue. I don't know what the truth is; but it's clear enough what isn't.
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Posted: 2005-01-23 20:24:32
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slattery69 Posts: > 500

why do you think there should be arab names on the flight list does bin laden have a strict arab only employment policy.i am sure there are many people around the world who arent arab would would be more than willing to help bin laden. also if i had hi jacked a plane with the aim of crashing it into a building i would nt want my name used i would take someones identity as i would nt want some men in suits and large guns turning up on my familys door step or a nice thomahawk been set into my families place of recidene
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Posted: 2005-01-23 20:38:15
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