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On 2008-03-11 14:33:46, max_wedge wrote:
That's the beauty of standards - you don't necessarily have to change everything when you change just one thing
There will no doubt be some unique X1 accessories made by SE, probably some will be usb mini plug versions of fastport accessories. Also I'm sure some fastport accessories just won't be available in usb mini plug form anywhere.
But overall the incompatibility pains will be less than the compatibility gains in switching to usb mini plug.
That's the beauty of standards - you don't necessarily have to change everything when you change just one thing
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Posted: 2008-03-11 17:50:49
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On 2008-03-11 16:37:06, Dogmann wrote:
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Simple really if you don't want to move to a new platform or more standardised accessories DONT, no one is forcing you to. Now if you are angry at SE for not being able to enforce thier propriety connections on a devcie they are not producing themselves tell them but i seriously doubt it will make any difference.
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-03-11 15:37 ]
OK you clearly do not understand where I am coming from.
The point is WHY? as it will mean loyal customers who wish to move to that device will incur a lot of extra costs. We all know why it does not use M2 we all know about mini USB etc etc what I dont get is WHY it makes no sense to move to HTC and WM other than to

who get to sell more kit.
Standards are GOOD I am all in favour of them it is

taking the P**s I am annoyed about. They only just moved the P series onto fastport and M2 at the design stage they could have easily chosen standards over a proprietary route! but the latter makes them more money!
I am lucky, I specify and buy kit so I can get pretty much what ever I want, but what about those who pay for this c**p with their own hard earned?
I do not think it is good enough,
As for letting

know my feelings rearrange these into a well known phrase or saying. wind p*****g the into
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Posted: 2008-03-11 18:05:08
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I don't think X1 is intended to replace P series as the high end smartphone from SE. It runs parallel to P series not instead of - so therefore UIQ/FASTPORT fans will still have the option of high end phones, and won't have to waste their fastport accessories.
Diehard SE UIQ fans will not be interested in X1. And if they are, well frankly they probably can afford accessories anyway.
Even Nokia themselves have different connectors for their phones. Infact they are pretty bad at that. SE is way more consistant than most OEM's at keeping their connectors and accessories compatible across their line up.
I think SE would miss far more potential sales of X1 if they used the proprietary SE connector than if they use usb mini plug, so I don't see they have much choice in the matter tbh.
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Posted: 2008-03-12 00:44:36
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If given a choice SE would definitely like to use proprietary connectors on the X1 because it allows them to make more money. Then again SE only slap a badge on the X1 so they have no choice in this matter. Get over it and welcome to the "open" world.
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Posted: 2008-03-12 08:08:21
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SE have done more than slap a badge on the X1
They have significant input into design, as is the case of any HTC. Just compare a HP HTC unit such as the HW6500, to an XDA handset such as the XDA Mini - completely different quality levels, different materials used, different design elements. The design elements of the HP HTC's follow HP design trends, the XDA HTC's follow XDA design trends.
It's like comparing apples and oranges.
The slider design, the panels interface, the button arrangements, are all unique and pure SE. (though I believe the panel interface runs over the "touchflo" touch interface designed by HTC)
The X1 retention of USB Mini Plug is not because the device is a HTC. The HP HW6500 doesn't have a usb mini plug, it has a proprietary HP connector. The USB Mini plug has been retained on purpose by SE because they are aiming at the WM market which generally has a high demand for standard connector types (HP themselves have always been proprietary - more proprietary even than SE, as the X1 proves - but most other WM devices use usb mini plug)
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Posted: 2008-03-13 05:50:23
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@max
I strongly believe the X1 camera module was build by Sony. it's simply ridiculous to use a weaker camera module in X1 while Sony has lots of experiences in making camera modules. esp. that their 3mp phones produces excellent pics anyway. what do you think?
@mib:
I really laughed on your sentences. that's what haters tends to do when they glimpsed good things on their opposition
Anyway you forgot the HSDPA/HSUPA antenna - I don't think HTC has the capability to develop this thing.tbh i can only think of one company capable of doing this: Ericsson
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Posted: 2008-03-13 07:22:34
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On 2008-03-13 07:22:34, razec wrote:
@max
I strongly believe the X1 camera module was build by Sony. it's simply ridiculous to use a weaker camera module in X1 while Sony has lots of experiences in making camera modules. esp. that their 3mp phones produces excellent pics anyway. what do you think?
razec, I indeed hope you are right. Because the camera on every HTC I have ever owned or played with is utter crap. The 1.3MP camera on my HP is about the same quality as my old T610.
It's my feeling that SE will have contributed a camera module, but it could go either way. I think it would be a bit of a mistake if SE let the X1 be given a camera such as the once's I've seen so far from HTC. It would make a mockery of the X1's high end styling and formfactor.
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Posted: 2008-03-13 19:24:46
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male MINI USB TO FASTPORT female ADAPTER possible ?
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Posted: 2008-03-13 19:58:13
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BEWARE!!!!...again...this same "underground" marketing was used for P990i, if you disagree then you have already been fooled. BEWARE!!!!... same thing happened, and again is happening. X1 is the next P990.
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Posted: 2008-03-13 21:43:12
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The reason for the switch from things like fastport was discussed here sometime back and also extensively in the courts. The agreement was that phone providers were given a certain period to standardize their charges etc to make it universal il find the article later i'm sure someone will before me.
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Posted: 2008-03-13 22:51:26
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