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Supa_Fly Posts: > 500


On 2012-04-05 20:44:13, doministry wrote:
Xperia S is top notch. iPhone is nice - no doubt - but it's just not the same league anymore.
Small screen, boring design and childish UI.
Onscreen keyboard on X S works much better than in the iPhone.
My opinion, but it's so obvious for me.
As for build quality, iPhone is just sh..t - it cracks like a glass.


Doministry,

As a long time member such as myself, I value your experience and opinion - bar none - and I say that with VERY few members here!

However, I don't agree with the iPhone.
"Childish UI" ... this is an ICON based UI - the very SAME ICON based UI used in:
Blackberry,
iPhone,
Android,
SE Java UI,
and just about EVERY Phone, smartphone ever made.
So I must conclude "Childish UI" is a 'lame' claim to defame iPhone. The icons in ALL iPhone apps hold better GUI "clarity" if you will than every other phone. Take a GOOD look at the iPhone icons viewed from full screenshots compared to the various screen resolution full Resolution. Approval for apps are done by a team that actually look at the icons through, the same eye-piece classical watch makers use.

Boring design. Everyone has their opinion, mine ... iPhone very economical (my soul is happy the majority of parts are highly recyclable & don't damage the earth we live off of; no I'm no hippy). Aluminum chassis is VERY sturdy and the 4S eliminates issues with signal strength (although I'm annoyed by slower acclamation of getting signal once lost; its slower).

"Onscreen keyboard on X S works much better than in the iPhone"
Hmm. I must ask ... how long have you used an iPhone 4/4S on-screen keyboard for? Have you first hand examples for those writing in traditional cantonese/mandarin or Japanese?! (writing in Glyphs) Don't say this may to be important as there is almost 2.5 Billion users in this market and WILL matter to ANY platforms success.

ALthough I'm very worried about iPhone's front and back glass - its the same as all Android phones currently - I've yet to break the glass on my iPhone 4 and now my iPhone 4S; we're not the careless typical users who's parents pay for our phones . lol.

Again I value YOUR opinion and I have tried the Xperia Arc's keyboard but its not as responsive as even a iPhone 3GS; great phone though.

That all said I'm STILL looking forward to trying ICS on Xperia ION and "S" models!
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Posted: 2012-04-06 04:36:21
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adsada Posts: > 500

@Prom1

I hate to drift off topic, but a few things need to be mentioned

iPhone's do have an extremely childish UI, colourful little squares for people to press. Very basic and it's not the same as the icons found in Android, which are just more better looking and more 'mature'. Plus they can be customised with widgets and stuff...

Secondly, Apple and good for the environment? Ha don't make me laugh just take a look at the packaging the iPhone comes with to see how much Apple care. SE have actually done far more in this respect with the GreenHeart features.

While in the past I would have agreed that the iPhone keyboard is very very good, after trying out the one on the Xperia S I would say that this one is on par with the iPhone's one. It has come a long way but it was responsive and corrected errors well. Although I would say Android beats iPhone in this regard too, as Android users can choose different keyboards to what suits them. I use swype which means for extremely fast typing. On iOS you're stuck with Apples stock keyboard, so its worse then others because you have less choice.

I don't think worrying about the iPhone smashing is in the same league to Android phones, either. The amount of people I know who have had to get their 4/4S repaired because of smashing the glass just from a little drop is crazy. It's a stupid design, lets me honest here.

Just my opinion, and I think we should get back on topic now
[ This Message was edited by: adsada on 2012-04-06 09:53 ]

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Posted: 2012-04-06 10:53:30
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rickster2kuk Posts: > 500

So, anyone know when the .73 update is available - assume it's only for certain locations at the moment?

Also, I have a few fingerprints on the screen, but does anyone know if the screen/screen protector was coated with the anti-fingerprint chemical like the SGSII and iPhone?
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Posted: 2012-04-06 10:59:58
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NightBlade Posts: > 500

iOS does have a very "childish" GUI, although this perception is probably just due to the outdated graphic style.

I mean, all those bright and colourful buttons and exorbitant glossiness everywhere is not in line with modern graphics themes (it was 5 years ago). Nowadays it's all about (semi-) matte textures, minimalistic colour palettes, subtle gradients, minimal gloss and quasi-realistic 3D objects (e.g. for icons). ICS is a perfect example of those features and WP7 is an extreme. Here's a comparison:



In short, they sort of need to update their GUI.

Additionally, they also need to update their UI. It takes a bit longer to access information on iOS than, say Android (due to lack of widgets, simpler lockscreen, simpler menu categorization, etc.)
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Posted: 2012-04-06 11:37:24
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Arne Anka Posts: > 500


On 2012-04-06 10:59:58, rickster2kuk wrote:
So, anyone know when the .73 update is available - assume it's only for certain locations at the moment?


Here in Sweden the roll out started like a couple of days ago. However only for those having a branded phone from operator Tre. The rest are still waiting.
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Posted: 2012-04-06 12:11:23
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doministry Posts: > 500


On 2012-04-06 04:36:21, Prom1 wrote:

On 2012-04-05 20:44:13, doministry wrote:
Xperia S is top notch. iPhone is nice - no doubt - but it's just not the same league anymore.
Small screen, boring design and childish UI.
Onscreen keyboard on X S works much better than in the iPhone.
My opinion, but it's so obvious for me.
As for build quality, iPhone is just sh..t - it cracks like a glass.


Doministry,

As a long time member such as myself, I value your experience and opinion - bar none - and I say that with VERY few members here!

However, I don't agree with the iPhone.
"Childish UI" ... this is an ICON based UI - the very SAME ICON based UI used in:
Blackberry,
iPhone,
Android,
SE Java UI,
and just about EVERY Phone, smartphone ever made.
So I must conclude "Childish UI" is a 'lame' claim to defame iPhone. The icons in ALL iPhone apps hold better GUI "clarity" if you will than every other phone. Take a GOOD look at the iPhone icons viewed from full screenshots compared to the various screen resolution full Resolution. Approval for apps are done by a team that actually look at the icons through, the same eye-piece classical watch makers use.

Boring design. Everyone has their opinion, mine ... iPhone very economical (my soul is happy the majority of parts are highly recyclable & don't damage the earth we live off of; no I'm no hippy). Aluminum chassis is VERY sturdy and the 4S eliminates issues with signal strength (although I'm annoyed by slower acclamation of getting signal once lost; its slower).

"Onscreen keyboard on X S works much better than in the iPhone"
Hmm. I must ask ... how long have you used an iPhone 4/4S on-screen keyboard for? Have you first hand examples for those writing in traditional cantonese/mandarin or Japanese?! (writing in Glyphs) Don't say this may to be important as there is almost 2.5 Billion users in this market and WILL matter to ANY platforms success.

ALthough I'm very worried about iPhone's front and back glass - its the same as all Android phones currently - I've yet to break the glass on my iPhone 4 and now my iPhone 4S; we're not the careless typical users who's parents pay for our phones . lol.

Again I value YOUR opinion and I have tried the Xperia Arc's keyboard but its not as responsive as even a iPhone 3GS; great phone though.

That all said I'm STILL looking forward to trying ICS on Xperia ION and "S" models!


Thanks for your nice words!

As you see before I answered some users already replied.

Anyway, as for iPhone's boring design it's just my opinion. However I would be mad to be forced to buy the same phone's design for 5 or 6 years. And use this tiny screen without any size choice.

As for the childish UI - well, all those bubbles, textures and buttons look like very old fashioned and like made for kids.
It was a revolution in 2007 but world has moved forward.
New Android or WP7 look more enorgomic and pure.
And lack of any homescreen functionality is also a massive drawback.

I don't know about the keyboard, but maybe we talk about beeing used to something than?
I have Arc, S and than tried to type something on iPhone and it was torture for me.
[ This Message was edited by: doministry on 2012-04-06 13:10 ]

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Posted: 2012-04-06 12:45:23
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Bonovox Posts: > 500

IOS is sooooo bland,boring and too restrictive. Customisation is not much
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Posted: 2012-04-06 13:01:00
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adsada Posts: > 500

That is the quality of Android, it can constantly change to keep up with design trends. Apple are going to have a real problem in the next couple of years...its gonna be great!
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Posted: 2012-04-06 13:45:01
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rickster2kuk Posts: > 500


On 2012-04-06 13:01:00, Bonovox wrote:
IOS is sooooo bland,boring and too restrictive. Customisation is not much



But in all fairness Bono, it's designed like that so anyone can pick it up and use it - that's why is so popular with all ages.

IMHO Android is better, as you stated you have more freedom, but both are like chalk and cheese and are aimed completely differently.
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Posted: 2012-04-06 13:50:52
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Bonovox Posts: > 500

I prefer Windows myself but I still find it better than IOS personally
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Posted: 2012-04-06 14:18:00
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