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my ninja Posts: > 500

sd cards are more expensive to implement (meaning that 128 cards dont exist and are generally too slow for their size (10MB/s for 128GB...)), trust me sandisk and samsung have smaller extremely fast nand flash chips with larger storage for years, samsung announces chips every year that either double the capacity or increase the bandwidth (The new memory solution has a random write speed of 2,000 IOPS (input/output per second) and a random read speed of 5,000 IOPS. In addition, sequential read and write speeds are 260 megabytes per second (MB/s) and 50MB/s respectively, which is up to 10 times faster than a class 10 external memory card that reads at 24MB/s and writes at 12MB/s, greatly enhancing the smoothness of multitasking on mobile gadgets
). i dont think that you all grasp the depth of the stagnation of internal storage and thats fine, its importance is different for different customers. im just saying the person who wants less storage has no reason to complain having more space for a negligible diff in cost that for this specific kind of user is wholly depending on carriers to subsidize anyway, so that argument is essentially moot..

sd != nand..

again the rationalization that "its enough for me.." is a narrow way of viewing tech, it will only take one company that pushes internal storage for the rest to play along.

i am very happy that theres a honami "L" we will have to wait and see however how true this assumption is though..
[ This Message was edited by: my ninja on 2013-07-02 06:17 ]

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Posted: 2013-07-02 07:12:39
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vikeviki Posts: > 500

He has stated the deal will be cancelled for ZL water proof type for honami and may be we may go it for waterproof design for honami
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Posted: 2013-07-02 07:15:56
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rickrz Posts: 61

Well, hope they do include waterproof on the L version, and making the difference only for camera and maybe some not that awesome features that Honami will feature, I mean, the L version is meant for different markets than Honami is, such as Z/ZL was, having waterproof will defetively be a huge feature to Honami L version, since America(not the country, the whole continent) doenst have a phone with tuat feature, if Sony wants to get bigger here, waterproofing their version to this side of the planet will defetively make the difference among all the competitors here
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Posted: 2013-07-02 07:16:10
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vivftp Posts: > 500

my ninja, perhaps you have pricing info you'd care to share to support your claim that the price difference in negligible. Everything I've heard to date suggests internal memory is very expensive. Again, it makes sense to think that when you look at the prices of things like SSDs. If you have info or links supporting your argument about the price, please post them.
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Posted: 2013-07-02 07:19:59
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moogoo Posts: > 500

afaik XZ and XZL are available throughout north america.. at the very least.. the US, it definitely is.

seriously guys.. give it a rest with the internal memory debate. sony will do what maximizes its margins while satisfying consumers. again, it's pure preference as to which you'd prefer.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-07-02 06:26 ]

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Posted: 2013-07-02 07:23:22
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randomuser Posts: > 500

Anyway, now with zomg's confirmation I think we can put the sensor size under XR5

2/3" Exmor R CMOS IMX200 20 Megapixel back illuminated sensor
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Posted: 2013-07-02 07:25:26
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vikeviki Posts: > 500

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For honami ,not for honami L (XR3)version.

why Sony making two honami,really sometimes sony confuses,one may fail in one department for sure
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Posted: 2013-07-02 07:29:08
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supercoolman Posts: > 500

rumour says T-Mobile should have XZ available on July 14. that is less than 1Q from Honami launch. wonder if any carrier is going to get Honami and clash with T-Mobile's XZ sale.
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Posted: 2013-07-02 07:30:45
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rss_ndrsn Posts: > 500

Sony can make the Honami L bit expensive than Honami and release only to americas. Basically, if Sony could cram all Honami's feature in a smaller package, it would gain more media attention and a better selling point.

In Canada, Sony phones such as TX and ZL are being marketed as compact phones. The sales are not that successful because these phones lack the punch and x-factor to compete against Samsung and HTC. Now, with great camera, waterproof, faster processor, better screen, dedicated audio chip, and great design like maia had mentioned, all crammed in a ZL body (probably a bit thicker), the Honami L is surely going to have an edge. Plus, it will surely beat Samsung S4 Active by mile.
[ This Message was edited by: rss_ndrsn on 2013-07-02 06:38 ]

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Posted: 2013-07-02 07:31:24
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rickrz Posts: 61

Actually I may be wrong, but at least Brazil, Canada and US have no Z available till now
t mobile is gonna get the Z now, like after 6 months after the announcement amd s600 and s800 phones will probably be already available in not too much time

So again, it may not happen, but having a waterproof L version of Honami for america will be a very smart move from sony since we dont have any high end phone with this feature right now

They can different features such camera and other stuff that americans in general dont pay much attention to
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Posted: 2013-07-02 07:31:36
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