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AbuBasim Posts: > 500


On 2008-03-25 11:40:50, plankgatan wrote:
hhhmmmmm.... im NOT saying that Raduxs is fooling around, BUT i also think its very strange that a T650 suddenley produce DSLR colors/sharpness (special when its LARGE pictures(views), there focal lenght, sensor, etc, is VERY important)

You know plankis, a lot of people say exactly the same about your photos
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Posted: 2008-03-25 12:38:35
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soane28 Posts: 401

mayby radiux has just worked out how to use the t650 cam like you have with your k850 plank!
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Posted: 2008-03-25 12:42:17
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jack00 Posts: > 500


On 2008-03-25 12:42:17, soane28 wrote:
mayby radiux has just worked out how to use the t650 cam like you have with your k850 plank!


what can you work out with a cell phone cam - the adjustable features can be counted on one hand
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Posted: 2008-03-25 14:39:26
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soane28 Posts: 401

then how come raduix's pics are rather outstanding? Likewise with planks k850 photos?
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Posted: 2008-03-25 14:47:12
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jack00 Posts: > 500

jap thats the question, and being realistic i'd say his pics are cleary fake
(i haven't looked at any k850 pics, so this is just about the t650 ones)
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Posted: 2008-03-25 15:14:39
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jack00 Posts: > 500

i have updated my phone, because i may thought that my pictures were bad because of the old firmware
now look - the result is even wors!

what the f**k ?
its already blured out on the display before taking the pic - can anyone help me ?
thx - sorted it out (restarted the phone, and the blur was gone=

[ This Message was edited by: jack00 on 2008-03-25 16:16 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-25 17:13:26
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plankgatan Posts: > 500


On 2008-03-25 12:42:17, soane28 wrote:
mayby radiux has just worked out how to use the t650 cam like you have with your k850 plank!


now days, there is many more K850 people who get awesome pictures EVERY DAY. //amras, perfect, brewcaster, luci power, famous, Gerbang, larry68, etc, etc, etc.... //
i have just find ONE T650 phone who produce this DSLR quality....

super cam driver ??? i dont know, but they dosent look similar to the rest of T650 pictures.

Radiuxs said himself that this skiing pictures dosent come from him self, they come from Flickr.com...... can be good to know

ps... if i find a T650 who can produce this quality, i buy it directley


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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-03-25 17:13 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-25 18:04:33
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Radiux399 Posts: 246

Not all of my pictures come out great. Some are a bit over exposed. Some come out blurry. Obviously i'm not going to post a blurry picture - does anybody? Others however come out exceptionally well. Even better than I expected. It all comes down to having a steady hand.

However, I can pretty much assure you that the pics that i've posted that are from Flickr do come from a T650i. The T650i does very little, or no noise reduction. As a result, there is usually a high amount of chromatic noise (red and green colored dots) that can be seen in the darker sections of a picture. All the pictures that i've posted have this noise, and so I am confident that its from a T650i.

Also, I feel I should add that I believe that its this absence of noise reduction that allows that K770/T650 to take such good pictures. The K800/K850 line attempt to remove this noise by smearing or smoothing it out. However, the CPU in the phones aren't fast enough to do quality noise reduction in a reasonable amount of time, so the result is usually pretty quick and sloppy, and actually erases crucial details from the image. Similar to how a poorly encoded mp3 looses some sound data from the original CD or WAV file.

Using a quality noise removal program (I use Neat Image), its actually possible to remove the chromatic noise, and have a far better looking picture than what the K800/K850 is able to produce - but without the loss of detail or smearing. You can use Neat Image on pictures from the K800/K850 too to remove noise, but the damage has already been done - there is no way to bring back detail that was thrown out by the camera. Just like you can't bring back lost detail from an mp3 file. This is the main reason I prefer the K770/T650 camera to the K800 or K850.

(please note that in all the pictures i've posted I have not used any noise removal programs - they are all straight from the phone). However, it is possible to improve on them by removing some excess chromatic noise)
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Posted: 2008-03-25 23:50:02
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Radiux399 Posts: 246

Jack, i'm not sure exactly what you are trying to take a picture of, but it looks like its both out of focus, and that the lens cover may be dirty/smudged. I always make sure to wipe the camera before I take a shot, since the T650 camera is exposed with no cover.
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Posted: 2008-03-25 23:56:05
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catapult Posts: 56

@Radiux399

I'm not sure if you've already mentioned it before but I would like know which firmware version does your t650i have? Mine is currently with R8BB001.
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Posted: 2008-03-26 00:25:55
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