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Same here, the first day is usually the best, as the booth personnel of the various exhibitors are more enthusiastic in showing their wares, and you get to be first pick in guns and accessories. If only Balayan was nearer to Manila. Anyway come weekend i'll be there. Talked to nashe people, the Steyr M40 is still out of stock although they do have the M9. So many guns, so little time :grin:
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Posted: 2003-08-14 12:10:24
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doc,
just got back from the show. handled the Steyr M9 and S9 of Nashe. but yes ....no M40 for now. but the Walther P99 is a beauty! i think you should get that baby! but...well, everytime i look at the USP Expert... sheesh, too many toys, too few money for me!
we'll be back there tomorrow, Saturday. every year i just can't get enough of this. all your usual suspects are there. i check out even the cheap models. just for curiousity.
see you there.
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Posted: 2003-08-15 14:00:44
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I'll be taking a look at that P99 ( .40 or .45 ?) along with the other babies I listed. I know what you mean about not getting enough of the gun show. There was a time when the gun show was held at the same time as the PAO(ophthalmologists) convention held in nearby Edsa shangri-la hotel. Couldn't resist the urge to go to the gun show every afternoon for the duration of the exhibit, after attending only a few of the lectures in the morning
. I'll also be there tomorrow afternoon, wouldn't miss it for the world.
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Posted: 2003-08-15 17:47:49
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Boysaint
Got a Glock 30, couldn't get myself to buy a .40 S&W Walther P99 as the .45 cal SW99 wasn't available, maybe next year. I just hope KB's and breech face failures with glocks aren't really that common and have been blown out of proportion.
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Posted: 2003-08-16 16:21:48
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yeah i've heard of those KBs... but only from unofficial internet documentations. and anybody can post it on the internet. i mean... i can do websites and do fictional KBs of any gun i want to ruin an image, and it will spread like wildfire. just like how some forums in this esato thing are spread, where they announce all sort of gossip. point is ...we dont know how or when a KB will drop by. i think it happens with all brands and models (assuming it really does happen). malas na lang talaga pag sa atin natapat ang isang KB.
nothing like that happened yet (the KBs) to me nor any of my friends. including those who frequently shoot. am talking about ALL gun models.
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Posted: 2003-08-16 17:53:28
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Do you use lead bullets with your glocks. If so do they really foul up easily. Its been posted in other forums and in the glock annual 2003 that lead bullets cause excessive build up of crud which can increase chamber pressures which can lead to catastrophic failures and KB's, they say that this is due to the polygonal barrels found in Glock(and HK's, Jericho's etc) which are tighter than conventionally rifled ones. Funny thing is most of my shooting friends who use glocks(mostly 19's) use lead bullets(reloads) as these are readily available, practical and cheap, with no untoward incidents that I can remember and we shoot at least twice a week. I also use them for my HK in practice sessions and in fun shoots. Maybe we're just lucky or maybe as long as we clean them after every use we're safe (knock on wood).
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Posted: 2003-08-16 19:25:40
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i do not use reloaded and lead bullets anymore on my polygonal barreled guns. Glocks have tight chamber tolerances, and once a bullet is lighted, the brass case bulges (and we all know a reloaded brass already bulges), and will have a slower eject speed. harder time to get out of the chamber, coupled with a lower powder load to push it out, it can't eject on time for the next bullet feed. this will cause stove-piped ejected brass. this will damage the breechface, and maybe the ramp too. not to mention many other malfunctions. and that pressure build-up that you mentioned... i am inclined to believe it. if too much lead is already stuck on the barrel groove, i guess it will hold pressure back and make it push around the chamber, which...yes, will be catastrophic. maybe if you reload a little more powder (i dont know how to reload, so i'm sorry i dont know how much exactly) it may give a better pressure push (but again,think of what the lead build-up may cause). i guess the designers of these guns were all thinking that these guns will be used with state-supplied perfect loads, and didnt consider us users of reloads
! they "perfected" on the basis of good loads. (havent experienced any malfunction with factory loads on our Glocks!)
with reloads and leads the USP is more tolerant. the Glocks absolutely either stovepipes or doesnt eject at all. that is my personal reason to stop using reloads on our Glocks.
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Posted: 2003-08-17 20:00:24
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It would be very expensive to use factory ammo all the time although nyclad and copper plated bullets are a cheaper alternative to fmj. Anyway i'm a stubborn man, and i'll try lead reloads for one or two sessions and see how they turn out, i'll just clean every 50 rounds. More expensive bullets means lesser range time and that's not nice. Thanks for the input :-)
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Posted: 2003-08-18 10:22:40
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unfortunately thats true, doc. the more expensive each round is, the lesser we are going to enjoy. that is why i use local bullets on regular range time.
but let me tell you something... atin-atin lang ...i still sometimes try lead (dahil expensive nga ang factory load). but once it malfunctions after about a few rounds... i stop. and then it's cleaning time again.
(then i put the remaining lead rounds on my H&K
! ...my ever reliable big boy USP!)
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Posted: 2003-08-18 14:46:44
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doc, nakita mo ba si mrs vicky l. peņa of VLP guns and sport? her booth at the gunshow was the one beside tony pascual's. her right side (when inside her booth) is nashe's.
her batangas store is in Kalaw street, Lipa. but i go to her store in Kamias road, QC.
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Posted: 2003-08-18 17:13:03
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