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BobaFett Posts: > 500

yes, it could be any of them. but do hope iraq was the last one. however, it will take a long time in iraq to manage the conflict. think even years...
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Posted: 2004-04-18 08:16:48
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gelfen Posts: > 500

the USA is the greatest practitioner of "cultural warfare" the world has known. the innate arrogance of the residents (in general) coupled with the proliferation of electronic media has made american culture the single most pervading influence on the world.
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Posted: 2004-04-19 06:02:54
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BobaFett Posts: > 500

Many counuries tried to rule the world in the history of mankind. All of them failed. This message was posted from a R520
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Posted: 2004-04-19 08:19:49
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gelfen Posts: > 500

in many instances that was because they weren't aware of just how big the world was when they started out. of course, that didn't stop them ruling the "known world" (Alexander the Great springs to mind).

anyway, that is a false analogy for the USA. they don't want to rule the world - they may want a degree of control, but not to rule it. to rule the world would be too difficult and far too expensive. they would rather impose their value system to ensure most of the world is in a position to trade and exert their influence economically.

so far the americans have maintained their pledge hand over control of Iraq to the provisional council on June 30 this year. of course the troops will stay longer at the behest of the council because Iraq has no standing army to speak of at the moment, and they will be needed to "keep the peace". if coalition troops do leave before some degree of civil order has been re-established it will be a matter of weeks, if not days, before the UN is forced to march in (and in all likelihood many of the same units will be used anyway).

it's pretty plain to see that as Iraq moves closer to self-rule, the extremist fringe gets more rabid and takes more drastic measures to create civil disorder and unrest.


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Posted: 2004-04-19 08:41:02
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gelfen Posts: > 500

the US have just announced a deal for a ceasefire around Fallujah - involving joint coalition/iraqi patrols, shorter curfew hours and over US $77 million in aid once hostilities end.

meanwhile, Sadr (the head of the Mehdi Army) has ordered Shi'ite forces to stop attacking Spanish troops after the announcement they were going to witdraw from Iraq, while also urging other coatlition forces to follow Spain's example (read WEAKNESS).
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Posted: 2004-04-20 03:22:52
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boto43 Posts: > 500

U changed the words weaknes and intelligence. This message was posted from a T610
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Posted: 2004-04-20 05:56:47
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gelfen Posts: > 500

no i didn't - weakness was my own commentary. spain is not leaving because they have suddenly realised the morality or otherwise of their position. they are leaving due to fear of repurcussions.

in further news: al-Sadr has publicly confirmed it is acceptable for Shi'ite forces to kidnap civilians from the countries currently occupying Iraq.

is it just me or does that guy need a good kick in the head?
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Posted: 2004-04-20 06:06:35
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boto43 Posts: > 500

Yes,u r right mate. But fear is a feeling that means u have still a common sense. I'm not sure if americans still have a common sense(mean only in IRQ) This message was posted from a T610
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Posted: 2004-04-20 06:23:48
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gelfen Posts: > 500

nobody ever accused an american of common sense.

still, i think they are now obliged to ride this pony to the end (until the Iraqi govt takes control, including militarily).
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Posted: 2004-04-20 06:26:51
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

There is a worrying viewpoint creeping into the world that everything America does is wrong. Whilst l do not agree with a lot of what they do they are a force for good, what would the world be like if every tinpot dictator knew that he could do anything he wished because there was no one with the power or willingness to stop him?
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Posted: 2004-04-20 08:40:00
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