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Mizzle Posts: > 500


On 2008-01-06 14:19:07, nebraska wrote:

hello

When I am inside, and if I take a photo of a perso who is in movement, thihs peerson is blurry on thee picture. Is it the same for you?

Here is an example:

http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00169800x600mo5.jpg

I precise that this happen even with the "sport mode"

When I am outside, with more light the pictures are sharp and no pbl with the camera


When objects / people are moving THAT fast, they'll always get blurry, unless you're using a phone with a proper xenon flash and you've disabled twilight portrait mode.
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Posted: 2008-01-06 14:26:03
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Radiux399 Posts: 246


On 2008-01-06 14:19:07, nebraska wrote:

hello

When I am inside, and if I take a photo of a perso who is in movement, thihs peerson is blurry on thee picture. Is it the same for you?

Here is an example:

http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00169800x600mo5.jpg

I precise that this happen even with the "sport mode"

When I am outside, with more light the pictures are sharp and no pbl with the camera


The T650i has a pretty small lens so its going to increase the exposure to get a bright enough shot in indoor environments. The downside to a longer exposure is blurry shots. I don't think there is any way around this.

I do believe that the camera on the T650i is a bit buggy though. Next time you want to take a picture indoors and turn the camera on, see if the framerate in the viewfinder is very low and moving the camera produces a blur in the viewfinder. If it does, turn on the flash, take a picture, and delete it. When the viewfinder activates again, you should notice that the picture now is a lot smoother with no blur. Try taking a picture then to see if its still blurry or not.

I don't know if this is a bug that affects the viewfinder only, or the actual shots taken, but it doesn't hurt to experiment.
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Posted: 2008-01-06 21:09:04
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nebraska Posts: 241

yes I think that the camera is sometimes bugging, because sometimes even outdoors I obtain blurry pictures one time on 3 or 4..

radiux> your method is quite interesting! But as far as my english is not very good could you please tell me if I am right: you meant that I take a picture with flash, then delete it, and after that take another pic that will be sharper, that's it? in which mode?
I did rhat and you are right it increases quality a little bit ! And on the screen the image is sharper, quite strange

The "document" mode seems to be sharper too, but it only works with macro scenes, a pity



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Posted: 2008-01-06 23:34:09
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nebraska Posts: 241

look at those 2 pics for example, the persons on both photos are walking at around the same speed, but on the one the character is blurry, on the other it is clear, so it is a bug maybe... (my arm wasn't moving in both cases)

http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00453qc5.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00468ss0.jpg



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Posted: 2008-01-06 23:39:17
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nebraska Posts: 241

I precise that the weather was quite bad, so not much light
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Posted: 2008-01-06 23:42:34
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Radiux399 Posts: 246


On 2008-01-06 23:39:17, nebraska wrote:
look at those 2 pics for example, the persons on both photos are walking at around the same speed, but on the one the character is blurry, on the other it is clear, so it is a bug maybe... (my arm wasn't moving in both cases)

http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00453qc5.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00468ss0.jpg




I can't be certain, but here is a guess. Notice how on the 1st picture, everything is overall much brighter than the 2nd one. Since the lighting outdoors has not changed, I can only assume that the camera decided to activate some kind of "night mode" if left in automatic, which increased the exposure, created a brighter image, and caused the walking man to blur. The 2nd shot is a bit darker, but the blur is hardly apparent.

As for my trick, i'm really not sure if the 2nd picture taken will be sharper or not. I DO know that the framerate in the viewfinder is a LOT smoother and fluid (but more noise), which seems to show that nightmode is off. Its pretty easy to tell when nightmode is on when the viewfinder only updates at around 5-10fps, the image brightness ramps up, and everything blurs when you move the camera around. This "trick" of mines seems to disable night mode in the viewfinder, but i'm not sure if it actually results in a clearer picture. Someone needs to experiment and find out.
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Posted: 2008-01-08 02:17:45
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nebraska Posts: 241

thanks for your answer radiux

I don't remember if the night mode was on Auto when I took the photos because I took many ones with different settings...

I will make a test with different modes and tell you what is my best settings.

Here is the settings I generally use:
-scenes:sport
-3MP
-focus:auto
-white balance:auto
-pic quality:fine


PS: what do you mean by "screenfinder", is it simply the screen of the phone?
Sometimes, when I look at the screen before taking the pic, the image seems to move slowly (in case of not enough light) and somtimes it moves faster (more light). I noticed that the image on the screen has a light that increase or decrease by itself, and then stabilize

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Posted: 2008-01-08 14:11:57
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nebraska Posts: 241

and I precise too that I have the old firmware

maybe the new has a better cam software
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Posted: 2008-01-08 14:26:32
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AbuBasim Posts: > 500


On 2008-01-06 23:39:17, nebraska wrote:
look at those 2 pics for example, the persons on both photos are walking at around the same speed, but on the one the character is blurry, on the other it is clear, so it is a bug maybe... (my arm wasn't moving in both cases)

http://img244.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00453qc5.jpg

http://img149.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00468ss0.jpg

I don't have a T650i myself. Does it allow changing the metering mode? I see in the EXIF data in your photos that the camera was set to Center Weighted Average mode. This, plus that you're aiming the camera at the dark paneling of the wall probably increases the exposure, slowing down the shutter speed.
(Center Weighted Average is usually best suited for portrait shots.)

I downloaded the T650i users guide but it's of the same poor quality as all SE phone guides so it doesn't explain much how to operate the camera.
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[ This Message was edited by: AbuBasim on 2008-01-08 17:53 ]
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Posted: 2008-01-08 18:46:58
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nebraska Posts: 241

hello

what is the EXIF data ??
concerning the metering mode, it doesn't exist....
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Posted: 2008-01-08 20:28:27
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