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On 2013-07-02 09:53:08, mediar wrote:

On 2013-07-02 09:34:53, supercoolman wrote:
look at all of the smart phone manufactures. I think Sony is doing ok on its updates if you take into account that SE was being acquired and restructured into SMC. Windows 7/7.5 phones simply can't update because M$ declared no support for them. HTC and Samsung only update flagships, but their latest flagships are not so different from the older flagships (GS3/4, One/One+, BF/BF+). Apple forces update, but whether your older iPhone can run the update smoothly or not is a different story. Apple's forced update forces you to buy new phone. This indirectly says older iPhones are no longer supported.


Unfortunately not the acquisition and restruction, but the internal fights in Sony are the main reasons for their inability to catch up with the competition. And, as some info came from XDA some time ago, these fight aren't going to stop anytime soon, which still stops me from putting any hope on them. Furthermore, when you pay so much money on their flagship, like I did in 2011, you expect to get product support on par with competitor's flagships, or at least better than the mid-range phones, which isn't the case with Sony... Getting close to no support and software updates for the flagship because of some internal fights or the mid-range phones is not an excuse, but a shame. I'll wait better times for Sony. Till then I'll go for Samsung because of the support their flagship gets.

Buy I just came to say that Sony finally managed to get the UI of its custom skin right and I appreciate that.
[ This Message was edited by: mediar on 2013-07-02 09:08 ]



I don't get it, the Z has gotten 4-5 updates in 6 month, same with the ZL, THE XPERIA S has passed from 2.3 to ICS to 4.1.2, same as the ion xperia P xperia SL, XPERIA V XPERIA T ECC ECC....
i don't understand people who says sony wont update their phones!!
LOOK at samsung, the note 2 is still with 4.1.2 ! after one year!!
the galaxy s1 has never gotten ICS from samsung and yes it was a flagship
the only company that gives updates faster than sony to all it products is google, but sony has 30 phones to support while google has 5.
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Posted: 2013-07-02 10:19:06
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kurtdean Posts: > 500

^ He's a sony hater for sure and perhaps he was paid by samsung to talk shit about sony like what they did before to htc
[ This Message was edited by: kurtdean on 2013-07-02 09:24 ]

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Posted: 2013-07-02 10:23:00
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MartenR Posts: 313

I acrually think mediar is a SE and Sony fan he or she is just dissapointed.
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Posted: 2013-07-02 10:42:45
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McKinley Posts: > 500

I have been disappointed with Sony too in the past but I can see the silver lining of this very dark cloud and my hope is to return to Sony once Honami is released in the US.

If Honami even comes with half of what has been said in here, I'm definitely going to be one of the ex-Samsung owner to adopt Sony once again.
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Posted: 2013-07-02 11:08:12
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XperiaJunkie Posts: > 500

I know most of the people who post all the leaked info on here are pretty much spot most of the time but could there be something regarding the annoucment of the Honami in Paris this week.

1. The press invite as we know is in Paris
2. The leaked screen shots show the effiel Tower
3. The new Geo-tagging icon is the same

anyone agree
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Posted: 2013-07-02 11:13:42
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randomuser Posts: > 500

Sony Mobile CEO Kunimasa Suzuki Interview

http://online.wsj.com/article[....]3998604578567360210744142.html

WSJ: What is Sony doing to differentiate its smartphones?

Mr. Suzuki: We are taking the technology developed for other product categories like TVs and cameras, and applying it to smartphones. And there's no end to the evolution of technology in each area, be it digital imaging or sound quality.

So it's just a matter of how we integrate all the technology into mobile. Technically, integrating each technology into mobile takes a lot of work in terms of engineering.

WSJ: What's the biggest challenge you see?

Mr. Suzuki: Our competitors are strong. Their investment is huge in many areas. Samsung has a huge amount of money, and so does Apple. Yes, we know that. So shall we prepare that level of money from the beginning? That's impossible.

But we are already starting to grow, and we have a chance to grow more. We don't have a huge amount of dollars to spend yet. So we have to think of a very efficient way to use our money.
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Posted: 2013-07-02 11:16:22
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goldenface Posts: > 500

Smart and honest guy.
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Posted: 2013-07-02 11:36:34
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puestadelsol Posts: 310


On 2013-07-02 11:16:22, randomuser wrote:
Sony Mobile CEO Kunimasa Suzuki Interview

WSJ: What's the biggest challenge you see?

Mr. Suzuki: Our competitors are strong. Their investment is huge in many areas. Samsung has a huge amount of money, and so does Apple. Yes, we know that. So shall we prepare that level of money from the beginning? That's impossible.

But we are already starting to grow, and we have a chance to grow more. We don't have a huge amount of dollars to spend yet. So we have to think of a very efficient way to use our money.


That's quite a poor excuse if we think about phones. If a Chinese manufacturer's CEO would say this, I would accept it, but not from Sony. Related also to mobile phones, than how could Nokia make marginally the perfect cameraphone if they even aren't in camera business, considering that Nokia also has financial difficulties.
[ This Message was edited by: puestadelsol on 2013-07-02 10:49 ]

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Posted: 2013-07-02 11:48:03
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Ambivalent_ Posts: > 500


On 2013-07-02 11:48:03, puestadelsol wrote:
That's quite a poor excuse if we think about phones. If a Chinese manufacturer's CEO would say this, I would accept it, but not from Sony. Related also to mobile phones, than how could Nokia make marginally the perfect cameraphone if they even aren't in camera business, considering that Nokia also has financial difficulties.
[ This Message was edited by: puestadelsol on 2013-07-02 10:49 ]



Chinese tech company are heavily backed by government money (loans, subsidies, guarante backed by gov, tax cuts...) while Sony is much more market based.
[ This Message was edited by: Ambivalent_ on 2013-07-02 13:07 ]

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Posted: 2013-07-02 11:53:44
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maloqs Posts: 275

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