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JoJotaro Posts: 288

Android is a multitasking OS. More RAM is always better when multitasking!
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Posted: 2013-07-03 10:36:07
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Xajel Posts: > 500

I very liked the idea of widening the use of the magnetic power plug, to unify the docking solution ( no need for different dock for every phone ), and to make it easier to charge the phone without opening any flaps ( specially in the car )...

But I hope they will make a small change to make the plug unidirectional, I mean no need to check the polarity of the plug, it will plug any way and the phone will fix it any way ( integrated diode bridge )... exactly same as Apple's Lighting and before with MacBook Pro chargers... this thing is already an issue with microUSB and no body thought about finding a solution for it maybe coz the USB consortium doesn't care about it...


PS, I hope the new magnetic dock is steady enough to support the phone even when we need to touch it...
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Posted: 2013-07-03 10:38:26
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kurtdean Posts: > 500

Guys, I think the honami design is not that ugly at all. Try imagine this phone with full black glass like xperia z and it would look great. This pic is not black enough like Xperia Z and it looks dark grey thats y it doesn't look stunning IMO. Try imagine it with black xperia z glass color
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Posted: 2013-07-03 10:40:00
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razec Posts: > 500

I'm interested at how the mobile G lens would fare against its siblings in the compact camera category (H-series) or even against this:





I'm not expecting it to be as good as its DSLR counterpart but at least I'm hoping that the mobile G lens in Honami will wipe the floor with the competition on a certain area that it excels alot(sharpness and bokeh) it's about time that we taste some soft and smooth bokeh output from a smartphone camera

I'm not against a 3GB RAM but I think having more memory bandwidth for now is more essential given that the GPUs inside the SoCs keeps improving, and to achieve that we need either to have an LP-DDR5 memory chips built into out smartphones or have higher bus-width (128Bit or more). Experience told me that people are usually misled by quantity on selecting components for their custom built PC, I think it's no different in the mobile space.
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2013-07-03 10:04 ]

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Posted: 2013-07-03 10:51:18
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Xajel Posts: > 500


On 2013-07-03 10:42:47, aurelius wrote:

On 2013-07-03 10:36:07, JoJotaro wrote:
Android is a multitasking OS. More RAM is always better when multitasking!
There's nothing in your phone that would use more than 200-300mb at a time. Every single phone

out there would be good with a max of 1,5-2gb.

There's absolutely no reason to have 3gb of RAM, no reason at all! If you think so, you are greatly mislead by the hardware-race.


You reminded me of two quotes

"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers", Thomas J. Watson from IBM in 1943...

"No one will need more than 637 kb of memory for a personal computer.", Bill Gates in the 1970s, thought he denied that he said that once...

I hope we don't see your reply being quoted after few years

Current Android is a multitasking OS, more ram will help bring more multitasking features, while at this time you see no need for it, the developers actually limits the features they implement coz of these limitations ( low RAM, low processing power, power consumption )... Android will evolve now or later, and for me when I moved from 512MB to 1GB to 2GB I saw a benefit each time, The more apps, widgets you have.. the more ram you need... now a midrange usage of a 2GB RAM high-end phone will have 500 ~ 900MB of free RAM... Android dev's and manufacturers sometimes making some decision based on how much free RAM you will get later...

I know no body want bloatwares, but some features really needs more RAM, even some apps... later if you found an Image/Video editing software on your phone or tablet ( a real application with plenty of features ) you will really need more RAM and processing power... infact you can't find a decent app like this coz of these limitations... some developers are finding their way of doing it.. like for example using personal cloud processing/storage... editing in your tablet/smartphone and processing in your home PC... thought I didn't saw any real world applications that have such possibility....
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Posted: 2013-07-03 10:59:26
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JoJotaro Posts: 288


On 2013-07-03 10:42:47, aurelius wrote:

On 2013-07-03 10:36:07, JoJotaro wrote:
Android is a multitasking OS. More RAM is always better when multitasking!
There's nothing in your phone that would use more than 200-300mb at a time. Every single phone

out there would be good with a max of 1,5-2gb.

There's absolutely no reason to have 3gb of RAM, no reason at all! If you think so, you are greatly mislead by the hardware-race.


There are people that tend to have dozens of applications open on their phone. You might not do that but some people do. Do you need 16 GB of RAM on your PC? It depends on how much of a multitasker you are and what applications you use. Photo/video editing, 3D modeling, gaming etc use quite a bit of RAM by themselves and processing power. More RAM, more CPU/GPU power etc is always better, it all comes down to what your needs are.
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Posted: 2013-07-03 11:05:35
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king-james Posts: > 500


On 2013-07-03 10:40:00, kurtdean wrote:





Looking same. So could be honami. Monster bezel...
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2013-07-03 10:09 ]

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Posted: 2013-07-03 11:07:55
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Ricky D Posts: > 500

I agree more RAM is better.

Life example:
I'm playing Jelly Defense, my hangouts rings so I pause the game. My hangouts conversation leads to me needing to open a Google Drive doc and forward some info via email. Do that, return to the hangouts, confirm it's done. Then go back to my game, oh no, I ran out of RAM doing the other things and the game restarts from the beginning.

Has happened to me before on previous handsets and will undoubtedly happen again with future games. More RAM would have meant my game stayed in the memory and I could have simply unpaused and carried on.
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Posted: 2013-07-03 11:09:07
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razec Posts: > 500

not just more RAM, we also need faster RAM!
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Posted: 2013-07-03 11:11:54
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JoJotaro Posts: 288

Yes, faster RAM and faster storage. Much like PCs benefit from SSDs so will Android, or any mobile OS for that matter.
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Posted: 2013-07-03 11:14:56
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