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razec Posts: > 500

okay before the thread derails again I wanted to ask something, will gaikai service also come to Honami?
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Posted: 2013-07-05 12:50:20
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Ricky D Posts: > 500

The ONLY reason? I don't think so.

Also, Eldar is probably right. It's been like that for all Sony phones for as long as I can remember.

The camera drivers are improved in subsequent updates, to me that says they aren't at their best at launch.

If you compare that to standalone cameras, when was the last time you saw a DSLR owner fretting over a fw update in the hope of an improvement?
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Posted: 2013-07-05 12:52:03
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razec Posts: > 500


On 2013-07-05 12:52:03, Ricky D wrote:

If you compare that to standalone cameras, when was the last time you saw a DSLR owner fretting over a fw update in the hope of an improvement?



That happened before with Canon 5D MkII (pixel dark spots) and Canon issued an update a couple of months later. during the wait, Photographers who happened to be pixel peepers consider their cameras as defective even though the issue only shows up on a certain situation. but I do hope Sony launches Honami with stable camera drivers, it would be disappointing to see a camera centric device with bleeding edge hardware to fail just because of poor efforts on the programming side.
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Posted: 2013-07-05 13:06:54
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reeflotz Posts: > 500

well, that happened in the Z that at first picture quality was kind of mediocre and that the firmware update improved it significantly. But if one of Honami's selling point would be it's camera I think it's safe to assume that we will get picture quality of at least Z with updated firmware or way better, I don't think it will be as what eldar puts it, "mediocre" as Honami is at least going to be a camera centric phone. Like I said in the previous posts he usually tends to exaggerate, although of course we all still don't know until we finally see samples ourselves.
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Posted: 2013-07-05 13:10:59
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Ricky D Posts: > 500


On 2013-07-05 13:06:54, razec wrote:

On 2013-07-05 12:52:03, Ricky D wrote:

If you compare that to standalone cameras, when was the last time you saw a DSLR owner fretting over a fw update in the hope of an improvement?



That happened before with Canon 5D MkII (pixel dark spots) and Canon issued an update a couple of months later. during the wait, Photographers who happened to be pixel peepers consider their cameras as defective even though the issue only shows up on a certain situation. but I do hope Sony launches Honami with stable camera drivers, it would be disappointing to see a camera centric device with bleeding edge hardware to fail just because of poor efforts on the programming side.



But it doesn't happen with every release like it has been with Sony phones for a long time. Admittedly phone FWs are more complex to handle than my given example, but the point stands that the thing should work as well it can right out of the box instead of early adopters being guinea pigs or beta testers.
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Posted: 2013-07-05 13:47:11
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stook Posts: 76

Sensor could be big but lens is still small (ca 2mm). So the sensor cannot get the same light as in compact cameras
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Posted: 2013-07-05 13:52:44
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Shotokan81 Posts: 408

If Honami has a F2 lens, then the quantity of light that enters is driven by this apperture number, not the diameter of the lens right?

Maybe the angle of view is small?
[ This Message was edited by: Shotokan81 on 2013-07-05 13:10 ]

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Posted: 2013-07-05 14:07:47
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JoJotaro Posts: 288

With F2.0 aperture we can expect to achieve photos with a low depth of field... Field of view isn't affected by aperture...
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Posted: 2013-07-05 14:20:46
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bipinm Posts: 194

Sony now nowhere with Gaikai...But they will implement playing games in mobile. Also the PS4 Codes (sdk?) are not good either...
But they have till Nov to Fix it....


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Posted: 2013-07-05 14:23:01
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razec Posts: > 500


On 2013-07-05 14:20:46, JoJotaro wrote:
With F2.0 aperture we can expect to achieve photos with a low depth of field... Field of view isn't affected by aperture...


Sensor size also plays a role. Honami's sensor + F2 lens will produce better bokeh than HTC One sensor with F2. wait Honami also uses G lens so the advantage may be even greater so...
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Posted: 2013-07-05 14:35:06
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