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On 2013-07-11 01:23:39, Supa_Fly wrote:
Name me one competitor that can make great fast no failure production internal storage and RAM chips in vast .... VAST volumes like Samsung can??
- SanDISK = uses a LOT of their CHIPS,
- many of the industries laptops do as well!
So i challenge you .... whom??
How does this even remotely relate to whether sony will use exynos in future xperia?
Anyway samsung semi will have volume and profitability issues soon and sony, nvidia and amazon do not add up to make for the loss of apple even if they wanted to help samsung which is itself unlikely.
If you see what advantages sony would have in partnering with samsung for their cpus in future xperia feel free to share i think it is on topic.
Personally i think this will be qualcom for high end for a few years and intel is the most likely competitor, but if they take over it will take several years.
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Posted: 2013-07-11 02:31:18
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On 2013-07-11 01:23:39, Supa_Fly wrote:
On 2013-07-11 00:43:26, Shotokan81 wrote:
On 2013-07-10 17:33:08, supercoolman wrote:
exynos sony phone? not a chance. companies may have to start suing samsung just like apple if they share their technology with samsung for samsung to copy for the next XX years.
Of course this is only your guess supercoolman... But I agree 100% with it, not a single chance.
Samsung will first need to show the world next gen Exynos can be used in their own phones, as for current gen exynos it is compromised.
Then assuming it is the case, Sony has no interest "helping" samsung, so samsung will have to cut prices.
Sony will need to optimise software, which is currently optimised for snapdragon, and that would be a new cost.
Finally, sorry but my gut feeling is sony+amazon+nvidia
[ This Message was edited by: Shotokan81 on 2013-07-10 23:45 ]
Name me one competitor that can make great fast no failure production internal storage and RAM chips in vast .... VAST volumes like Samsung can??
- SanDISK = uses a LOT of their CHIPS,
- many of the industries laptops do as well!
So i challenge you .... whom??
NO Sony no!!!! I smell a ploy and despicable technique Samsung is up to! They will probably open up your phones and products, learn, inspect and STEAL YOUR TECHNOLOGIES AND CLAIM IT AS THEIR OWN!!!!!
Another thing is, IF they are able to make vast volumes and fast amount of time, and as you said most companies user their chips, doesn't it mean that they do not not even NEED these companies support and they still get a huge amount of profit from the other companies? There must be something in these companies which will do Samsung good that they try to extract from.
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Posted: 2013-07-11 04:03:55
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^Yep, without Apples volume Samsung will have a hard time selling their Exynos chipsets, and I don't see why Sony will change in near time.
More likely that they will provide one model with an Intel processor.
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2013-07-11 03:16 ]
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Posted: 2013-07-11 04:04:22
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On 2013-07-11 02:31:18, Shotokan81 wrote:
On 2013-07-11 01:23:39, Supa_Fly wrote:
Name me one competitor that can make great fast no failure production internal storage and RAM chips in vast .... VAST volumes like Samsung can??
- SanDISK = uses a LOT of their CHIPS,
- many of the industries laptops do as well!
So i challenge you .... whom??
How does this even remotely relate to whether sony will use exynos in future xperia?
Anyway samsung semi will have volume and profitability issues soon and sony, nvidia and amazon do not add up to make for the loss of apple even if they wanted to help samsung which is itself unlikely.
If you see what advantages sony would have in partnering with samsung for their cpus in future xperia feel free to share i think it is on topic.
Personally i think this will be qualcom for high end for a few years and intel is the most likely competitor, but if they take over it will take several years.
Relativity is most manufactures sell you the item you want with an item you can use as a packaged benefit: CPU+RAM/Storage = better economies of scale in volume, along with the volume delivered on time. When have we heard Samsung have RAM delivery issues besides what was caused by natural disasters (many of which killed off a least 4 of the competition that if survived would've made SSD in our laptops much cheaper years ago, along with our smartphones and tablets). Also that 8-core or multi-core whatever it is is quite comparable to what Qualcomm is delivering. Lastly LG usually gets the dibs (by paying mega $$) to Qualcomm to be the first to have volume of their latest and greatest cpu's for launch; been this way for about 4-5yrs now, and again Aug 7th, just before Sony. No more waiting for exclusitivity - we all hate that with phones on our carriers so why should the manufacturer of a complete product have to deal with it in sourcing their parts?! Dealing with this increases the cost of their supply chain as waiting costs money in the assembly line = amortization!
PS: I should've elaborated more in my first quote above yours, apologies.
I just hope Sony leaves the thin book-like sharp edged design and soon. The hardware and looks are great, but not feeling specific emphasis on rectangular shapes.
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Posted: 2013-07-11 04:22:57
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Am I in the wrong thread
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Posted: 2013-07-11 05:26:11
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On 2013-07-11 05:26:11, vikeviki wrote:
Am I in the wrong thread
That's just offtopic caused by too little leaks
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Posted: 2013-07-11 05:33:43
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On 2013-07-11 05:26:11, vikeviki wrote:
Am I in the wrong thread
rumours are just too far into the future. you need some time to grasp them.
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Posted: 2013-07-11 05:34:52
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Honami sensor shares most tech with RX100 II sensor.
(XR5) 
So u guys might wanna read these
http://store.sony.com/p/20.2-megapixel,-RX100/en/p/DSCRX100M2/B
http://presscentre.sony.eu/co[....]px?ReleaseID=8715&NewsAreaId=2
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Posted: 2013-07-11 06:48:57
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On 2013-07-10 07:29:57, supercoolman wrote:
On 2013-07-10 06:22:27, sighduck wrote:
On 2013-07-09 19:59:46, aurelius wrote:
On 2013-07-09 19:49:47, motvikt wrote:
Looking good
how was the build quality? Camera?
Just took a couple of pictures, can't say anything about that...yet
Yes Ultra, not honami, big, gorgeous and extremely thin. You cannot make it thinner I think because the 3,5" jack is like 5mm
[ This Message was edited by: aurelius on 2013-07-09 19:01 ]
You can actually, the Huawei Ascent P6 is 6.18mm thin.
6.18 is larger than 5
You probably felt smart saying that, but the audio jack is ~5mm, the Z Ultra is 6.5mm, the Ascend P is 6.18mm.
@aurelius: fair enough.
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Posted: 2013-07-11 07:06:19
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wow.. what great news randomuser..
not just the RX100 but RX100 II!! that's amazing!
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Posted: 2013-07-11 07:06:42
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