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LCARS-Expert Posts: 194

Unfortunately croatia didn't have english in school. At that time german was only foreign language in our schools.
He is trying to imply that his photos lost their quality due to sending via MMS because he can't upload by himself and he doesn't use Photoshop to do some improvements.
Thats all.
If you look at his 1st pictures and the last ones there are noticable improvements in sharpness and setting adjustment.
The color loss is another bad thing about sending photos with MMS.
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Posted: 2007-11-30 22:33:13
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plankgatan Posts: > 500

croatia........whats your problem ???????

ALL MY PICTURES FROM PAGE 75 AND BACKWARDS ARE SHRINKED IN PAINT, (NOTHING MORE) !!!!!!!!! (thats a lot of pics)....from page 76 and forward i use photo shop TO SHRINK WITH, (i have use auto level on some of my last pics...thats it...and if you look at the pictures whitout autolevel, you see they look very good)....if you bored at you own pictures, LEARN YOUR CAMERA.......

strange...they look good whitout autolevel and shrinked in Paint...very strange...(i have some hundred more if you like)
(you get it !!!!!!!!! )



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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-11-30 22:06 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-30 22:33:57
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croatia Posts: > 500

A-ha (Norwege pop group) hehe

This message was posted from a K850i
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Posted: 2007-11-30 22:40:12
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DonJuan Posts: > 500

Croatia calm down dude, hes just trying to gove you advice. Dont take it so personal.

Here is a shot of the strip from afar, its really cloudy here today and raining....


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Posted: 2007-11-30 23:08:52
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croatia Posts: > 500

Donjuan i just try to bring some christmas mood here cause i really love xmas i was not think about quality on my phone screen pics looks ok normaly with photo of Olympus i just try to make joke about future devices in k series,ok?






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[ This Message was edited by: croatia on 2007-12-03 09:39 ]
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Posted: 2007-11-30 23:14:27
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Radiux399 Posts: 246


On 2007-11-30 11:04:52, sadeghi85 wrote:

Instead what i'm seeing is some kind of digital compression done by the camera software in order to hide the noise.


what you mean? "bad noise reduction algorithm" or "fuzzy edges caused by lossy jpeg compression"? compression hasn't any effect on hiding the noise.


The way pixels from one part of the image "spill over" into adjacent parts is usually from poor camera software, not from a poor sensor. Or perhaps it is the sensor

can you explain more(with pictures)?


[ This Message was edited by: sadeghi85 on 2007-11-30 10:07 ]


Here, let me give you an example using the shots taken by Bhavv (since he was kind enough to post the full resolution shots)



This is his photo taken with flash reduced to 1024x768. It looks decent like this.




Now here is a small crop of the same image at 100% 5MP resolution. Notice the details, or lack of them? At full resolution, its almost difficult to tell what you are looking at. Its as if Vaseline was smeared over the lens. Look closely at the contrasting edges (the black wire running down across the X-Fi, for example) and you can see how the colors are "bleeding" into each other.

Perhaps i'm being nitpicky but I believe even the K750i took better pictures are full resolution than this.
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Posted: 2007-11-30 23:34:46
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borg_ Posts: > 500

Another one


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Posted: 2007-11-30 23:45:16
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croatia Posts: > 500

Donjuan but i love everybody who love s.e. even Plangatan :-) stay forever on s.e. dont go on nokia its a sin hehe greetings

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Posted: 2007-11-30 23:51:24
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plankgatan Posts: > 500

off topic

croatia...you wanna here something odd...i have never, ever used colors settings in photo shop, (i even dont know how it works)...i have only use auto level on some of my latest pics......and if i should be truthful, i dont think the results becomes much better, (maybe little more lustre)
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on topic

think negative is a realy cool feature.....(taken with no flash)


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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2007-12-01 01:00 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-01 00:28:14
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sadeghi85 Posts: 341


On 2007-11-30 23:34:46, Radiux399 wrote:

Here, let me give you an example using the shots taken by Bhavv
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Perhaps i'm being nitpicky but I believe even the K750i took better pictures are full resolution than this.



Ok

although K850 compresses pictures more, i still think that sensor size is more important. T650 and K750 have smaller sensor than K850 but their resolution is just 2MP, so i think photosites in T650/K750 are bigger than K850 ones.(each pixel needs one photosite)

smaller photosites = more digital noise

i'm agree with you, T650/K750/K800 pics look better than K850 at full resolution.

[ This Message was edited by: sadeghi85 on 2007-12-01 02:17 ]
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Posted: 2007-12-01 03:14:30
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