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randomuser Posts: > 500

So Honami has a nice pixel size advantage over the Lumia 1020

1.7 micron vs 1.12
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-07-12 08:49 ]

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Posted: 2013-07-12 09:49:10
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g-ryznar Posts: 11

To Ramu: Is Sharp's IGZO in Honami XR5? It is already known something about the oleophobic layer?
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Posted: 2013-07-12 09:59:42
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kurtdean Posts: > 500


On 2013-07-12 09:49:10, randomuser wrote:
So Honami has a nice pixel size advantage over the Lumia 1020

1.7 micron vs 1.12
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-07-12 08:49 ]



Yea and honami sensor is better in low light even when it has the same pixel size as lumia 1020
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Posted: 2013-07-12 10:04:29
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nightwing369 Posts: 415

Which device is which? Is one of them the Honami?
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Posted: 2013-07-12 10:27:43
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moogoo Posts: > 500

^ white XZ, XZU, Tablet Z

@kurtdean - how can you make such claims when you've never seen sample photos from either?

facts are facts and we can compare specs based on what we know (Nokia 1020) and what we sorta know (Honami), but to say that one is a better performer without seeing actual results is a bit overzealous.


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Posted: 2013-07-12 10:29:50
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king-james Posts: > 500

nightwing, is it so hard to read what is written under the pic??? FYI Honami is cancelled...
[ This Message was edited by: king-james on 2013-07-12 11:21 ]

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Posted: 2013-07-12 12:08:06
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Rubenos Posts: 142

James, good joke...
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Posted: 2013-07-12 12:17:40
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vikeviki Posts: > 500

Dear Mr NIghtwing,
I guess you are in kind of some trouble or your must wear new power glass ,I must say funny guy in this thread,Definitely this is not honami


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Posted: 2013-07-12 12:55:50
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razec Posts: > 500

LOL at the people being carried away by the 1020 hype, why are they mistaking glass elements as lens?

now I wonder what features the G lens on Honami would have, if Sony is crazy enough to think ahead of the competition, they can develop 9 bladed aperture as well as Special Low Dispersion (SLD) glass elements in a small camera module that will fit on honami
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Posted: 2013-07-12 13:29:24
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Shotokan81 Posts: 408


On 2013-07-03 12:03:38, Shotokan81 wrote:
Also, I just realised that Honami will get a much faster optical system that Nokia 808:
 - Pixel pitch: Honami 1.7 micron, 808: 1.4 micron, so Honami has +47% of Pixel surface, so half a stop is gained here.
 - Apperture: Honami F2, 808: F2.4, so about half a stop is gained here as well.
So approximately, there is about one stop gain in Honami compared to 808!!
Did I get something wrong?

I can't wait to see this beast!



So I noted your post Ramu, and I am back with my questionable maths.
I wanted to update this post now that we have the confirmed specs of Nokia EOS. The pixel pitch is smaller than 808, but the aperture is a bit better. How does it compare to Honami rumored specs?
 - Pixel pitch: Honami 1.7 micron, EOS: 1.2 micron, so Honami has twice the Pixel surface, so now a full stop is gained here!
 - Apperture: Honami F2, EOS: F2.2, so now "only" a third of a stop is gained here.
So approximately, there is about one stop and a third of gain in Honami compared to EOS!!

The question is, how does the toshiba sensor manage noise in low light vs the sony sensor? But with less than half the light reaching the pixel, the fight seems difficult.

And before Razec mentions it , outside sony tech to increase pixel density without noise, we think that BSI alone should reduce noise about 30% itself, Honami low light sensitivity should crush EOS, 3.5 times more sensitive if toshiba and sony remaining tech is equivalent...

Please feel free to correct me if wrong
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Posted: 2013-07-12 14:31:46
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