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With all due respect, enough with the OT please, you can discuss them over PM so we wouldn't derail this thread again.
And to answer sonysta's(which I believe is Guarulhos revision 2) comment one last time, first I must apologize for my deliberate derailing of this topic with this paragraph, now you asked me if I doubt pureview's quality, where in my previous post did I state that? I'm comparing HW vs HW here and not the pureview which is basically a software implementation. I wonder why you're so butthurt hearing this and ignored the main point of my post.
now we proceed to the technical side of things, pureview technology is awesome I must say It may produce brilliant 3/5/8MP pics, but we're looking at the year where 16MP+ cameras are the standard these days, and 808/1020 is not built for full res photography, but rather for reproducing a clean and sharp lower resolution image and Zooming without the need for large optics. I'd want nokia to built a pureview device capable of at least producing an oversampled 12 or 20MP picture rather than a meager 3/5MP as seen on the 1020, is it possible given Nokia's current capabilities? obviously not, now let's be honest here, even S4 Zoom can do the job better than 1020 on some cases, it's got farther reaching optics, and does not require oversampling a picture just to be able to call its camera Zoom capable. don't get me started over the flash range, as since galaxy Camera already outperforms 808, it only makes sense that we will expect the S4 Zoom to manage the same feat given that the physical size allows for a capacitor as large as the ones used by compact cameras. although it is a fact that 808 is superior to any smartphone cameras in the market as of this moment, we're yet to see how it would fare against Honami once it arrives so it's kind of childish to conclude that the latter will be inferior to 1020/808 despite not having seen yet what honami is capable of
once again I want to express my apologies for feeding the troll, and derailing this thread with my OT message, I merely felt the need to clarify some things to our friend here because he failed to get my point.
[ This Message was edited by: razec on 2013-07-13 12:04 ]
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Posted: 2013-07-13 11:43:47
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Sonysta, come back after September 4th and we will see whether your opinion about Honami remains the same
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Posted: 2013-07-13 12:59:22
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On 2013-07-13 11:41:23, Tsepz_GP wrote:
If you're going to talk trash about another OS please insure you at the very least know what you're talking about.
[ This Message was edited by: Tsepz_GP on 2013-07-13 10:44 ]
Same goes to you too in another thread for talking trash about playstation 3 being largely outsold by Xbox 360 but you just found out after I posted that the PS3 already outsold the Xbox 360. So please insure that you too at the very least know what you're talking about. Also what happened to your thread mocking sony users saying that the HTC one is a great threat and has already sold 5 million?

turns out that info was untrue although you should've known about it knowing HTC had supply issues yet you rushed and quoted members posts and tried to mock it saying you are right and they are wrong while laughing at them using emoticons, again "please insure you at the very least know what you're talking about" before you post rubbish just like you said
About the multitasking okay I take that back, I had my experience on an older version of ios hence why I compared it with

J2ME, latest updates seem to enable a feature that should've been there in the first place, but still you are limited/restricted on ios not unless you jailbreak it, you would still be itunes dependent as well as file sending/copying/sharing is still limited from ios to ios only. Which is quite silly and laughable because technology should make things easier and convenient, not the other way around. Which is why my post about you're still losing functionality when you get an iPhone over a Z or another flagship stands.
@moderators and readers of this thread
I apologize for the very long offtopic. I know It's not nice to read something like this in a forum.

This will be the last of it.
[ This Message was edited by: reeflotz on 2013-07-13 12:42 ]
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Back on topic guyz, any info on that L version of Honami? What will be its availability? Worldwide? Or its gonna be like Z/ZL? For selected markets?
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^The L-version, if it exists, won't be unveiled with the normal Honami, so not at the same time. It's not like XZ/XZL.
@Honami vs Lumia 1020:
There winner is clear, in my opinion.
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2013-07-13 16:35 ]
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Posted: 2013-07-13 17:33:17
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i hope not...
L version will be better looking than the other...
I am guessing...
No water proof
Bezel of ZL
IR Blaster,
Dual front design..
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Posted: 2013-07-13 17:34:49
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@Honami vs Lumia 1020:
There winner is clear, in my opinion.
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2013-07-13 16:35 ]
Its not at all clear until Honami is released and we can compare the images and videos they produce.
Until then its meaningless conjecture.
Also, I hope the Honami's camera software is up to par with the 1020's. With ISO control, a degree of manual focusing, white-balance control etc. etc. Adding those functions into the camera UI would be the big thing that would put the Honami up there with the 1020 in terms of camera performance.
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^That's why I said in my opinion
And my opinion is based on the rumors we have so far.
If it turns out that e.g. the sensor on the Honami will be smaller in the end, then logically my opinion would change.
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Posted: 2013-07-13 17:46:29
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really hope
Honamini does not sacrifice any of the features of Honami apart from the size and screen size! just want a smaller version of Honami! I would even accept a little more thickness for a smaller height and width!
and secondly really hope SONY don't make the mess of making this market dependent as they did with Z / ZL! its extremely difficult to get ZL in the UK which is a shame for people who actually prefer to smaller bezel over the waterproof feature!
thirdly having both released at the same time would be fantastic as it would let customers get the best of SONY and let them choose which size they prefer!
This is all wishful thinking and my personal opinion!
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Posted: 2013-07-13 18:58:36
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Ok Ramdomuser !
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