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If that is true, then it is too bad. But maybe the lawsuit will force them to release the drivers. Certainly in the next update of this model, the drivers should be there. From gsmarena, they said the Cruise cam is as good as K800. That count for something. Anyway I would not bet on SE cam anymore as it has gone downhill since K800.



Depends. Just have to wait and see how ridiculous the price of X1 will be. Another factor in HTC advantage is that the devices are pretty stable. Just hope SE dont destabilise the WM OS (or make it even more difficult to use) by being too ambitious incorporating all the not-that-useful X1 eye-candy panel stuff. (Given SE track history of UIQ3 UI design blunders, there is a very real danger of that)


btw: as a side note. You know Symbian has been "jail-broken". I think before long you can "tweak" the OS as much as you like like WM.


[ This Message was edited by: mib1800 on 2008-03-28 02:52 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-28 03:50:40
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There is not lawsuit, nobody is pursuing it. Listen mib, I own the TyTn2, and I was taking part in the lawsuit, its all over the net about HTC not releasing the drivers, they said they have a software solution but that wont affect video layback, they just might initialize QTV which coreplayer already does. No drivers pure and simple unless somebod pulls it out of the X1 or the Sirius.

I've owned the K790, and its far far superior to the HTC, the HTC sensor is small, and theres no LED plus oncelight goes low the cam switches to auto night mode where you get like 3-4 fps(you can check fps with the HTC cam) and shoting becomes difficult. The capera is superior to the K790 only where colour reproduction is concerned.

Lets not go into this again, I;ve posted about this page 88 and later.

I posted the jalibroken news on esato. But I thought you'd be disappointed about it being jailbroken, you said that securtiy was really important and now thats been compromised . If you'd like to continue discussion about this you can contact me via PM or e-mail, lets not push this thread off topic anymore.

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[ This Message was edited by: aksd on 2008-03-28 03:00 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-28 03:59:17
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@mib1800:



^^

wierd, this is what i read from the review

quote from gsmarena's HTC Touch Cruise Review:


even the sample pics indicates it's mediocrity compared to K800/K810

camera review:
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_cruise-review-211p5.php


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Posted: 2008-03-28 04:44:23
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I am REALLY hoping X1 has a decent cam, if not it's all a bit pointless really

Either a Sony mobile cam module, or just something better than the usually HTC fair. My HW6900 has a 1.3.2MP cam but the quality is barely better than a T610. Once you resize the image to get rid of the really bad graininess you'd have about the same res pics as T610

If X1 has usual crappy HTC cam then I WON'T be buying an X1.
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Posted: 2008-03-28 05:10:52
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@razec

You are right. I really have to brush up on speed reading skill.

Let's just hope the X1 cam is not the same module as the cruise. ;


[ This Message was edited by: mib1800 on 2008-03-28 05:35 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-28 05:30:27
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Max,

I think the module will be SE, maybe a carry over from the T650 or K800. Now the camera software and such will most probably be written by SE(or superivsed by SE and written by HTC), seeing how things are done in the WM world. ANd since its got touch focus and stuff which is very SE like I'm counting on the cam as well being manufactured by them.

If not, the next P series looks promising expecially now that we can access system folders .


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Posted: 2008-03-28 05:33:44
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Yes, I tend to agree with your line of thinking. Or maybe just wishful thinking

re: P series, so can now access system folders? This is cool indeed. No need to hack anymore Is this a symbian thing or UIQ?

@mib, I think you do need to brush up on your speed reading skills, esp. since I think that reply was intended for razec (it was he who corrected you about Cruise camera review)



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Posted: 2008-03-28 06:22:08
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but how u wanna make pix with it? according the form factor, its not a really cam focused device ( just look at e90, same opinion to it aswell ). next to it, imo a 2 mp cam ( maybe 3.2 max ) with af is what xperia will offer.
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Posted: 2008-03-28 06:36:20
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The E90 is in reality a bit different when it comes to daily use. Its bulkier and bigger making it a bit difficult to handle when comapred to X1, the X1 will be like a candybar once its slid in. No issues when it come to form factor. Although its not a dedicated camera phone it will do its job.

The X1 has a 3.2Mpx cam not a 2 Mpx.

@max

Yes wishful thinking, but logically I dont think SE would want to tarnish their image using a camera sourced from HTC, althoug in todays cellphone world wher themanufacturer want to make as much money from the end user who know?

Its actually been hacked and its a SYmbian thing, no need to sign programs as well. Looks like WM now will have competition on the developer front as well, if this isse int fixed in 9.3 and greater.

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[ This Message was edited by: aksd on 2008-03-28 06:05 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-28 07:02:09
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I'll be happy if it's a 3.2MP AF the same quality as K800.

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[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2008-03-28 06:14 ]
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