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The image posted by ePrice today is fake. Well not completely but just a revised render based on the leaks so far.
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Posted: 2013-07-16 12:04:01
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I have no idea what the device will be, I hope for the best of course.
But it is apparent that Sony wants to build hype, so by giving out too much info too early is not the good way to do so.
Unfortunately the torture will go on and on until the end.
The post from adrian mentioned more info to come in the next few days, this is intriguing.
Also, let's keep in mind Kaz said the "best" "最強", at a time Nokia 808 already exists, so whatever the sensor size, be sure Sony is designing a device to compete with the best in each category.
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Posted: 2013-07-16 12:07:05
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On 2013-07-16 12:04:01, randomuser wrote:
The image posted by ePrice today is fake. Well not completely but just a revised render based on the leaks so far.
Yes but the camera and ir blaster seems photoshopped to me, so I would say fake, also they seem to have tried to erase the previous logo to make it look real.
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Posted: 2013-07-16 12:11:42
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On 2013-07-16 12:07:05, Shotokan81 wrote:
I have no idea what the device will be, I hope for the best of course.
But it is apparent that Sony wants to build hype, so by giving out too much info too early is not the good way to do so.
Unfortunately the torture will go on and on until the end.
The post from adrian mentioned more info to come in the next few days, this is intriguing.
Also, let's keep in mind Kaz said the "best" "最強", at a time Nokia 808 already exists, so whatever the sensor size, be sure Sony is designing a device to compete with the best in each category.
Exactly, it's still too early to conclude things we only read from here. there's still alot of possiblities, and we can't be sure what we have now on leaks may actually come from an old proto and the real thing is still kept secret. of course it's always good to keep our expectations low but we shouldn't forget what One Sony philosophy really means for the company especially with Honami which is supposed to be their first product "true to their nature" smartphone.
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Posted: 2013-07-16 12:12:13
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On 2013-07-16 01:07:33, Ambivalent_ wrote:
On 2013-07-16 00:51:45, Tsepz_GP wrote:
How is the 808 not a smartphone?
If the 808 is not a smartphone then nothing that runs Symbian is or was a smartphone.
The whole point of smartphones is to have a highly functional OS. OS is a prime criteria by which we distinct smartphones and regular phones. But, you can't say that merely having an OS is enough for a phone to be considered a smartphone. 808 is a phone with an (dead in water) OS, highly centered around it's camera feature (which was the whole point of developing such a phone in the first place).
808 should be considered as a smartphone if it was released 3 years ago, but now, standards for smartphones are considerably higher.
Are those really smartphones if they were to be released these days;
http://www.theinquirer.net/img/5111/twinz.jpg?1241332048
http://www.technotalks.com/wp[....]loads/2008/12/samsung-g800.jpg
Anyway, this is my opinion and I elaborated it only because I wanted to explain the 808 controversy that I mentioned in the previous post. I don't wanna go off topic with this discussion so I will end it here.
[ This Message was edited by: Ambivalent_ on 2013-07-16 00:13 ]
I'm glad you said that is all your opinion, in reality the fact is you are wrong.
BTW, the G800 was never a smartphone.
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Posted: 2013-07-16 12:18:13
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guys i saw 2 photo samples of the camera of honami couple of weeks ago.
i have found that information:
first pic
Focal length: 4.9mm
iso 160
f/2.0
Centerweighted-Average metering
image size: 5248 × 3936
resolution: 72 Pixel per Inch
info for flash in the sec pic: (iso50)
df:li>50
/rdf:Seq>
exif:ISOSpeedRatings>
exif:ShutterSpeedValue>564/100
exif:ApertureValue>2000000/1000000
exif:ExposureBiasValue>0/3
exif:MeteringMode>2
exif:LightSource>0
exif:Flash rdf:parseType="Resource">
exif:Fired>True
exif:Return>0
exif:Mode>3
exif:Function>False
exif:RedEyeMode>False
exif:Flash>
[ This Message was edited by: sponse on 2013-07-16 11:35 ]
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Posted: 2013-07-16 12:33:27
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On 2013-07-16 12:33:27, sponse wrote:
guys i saw 2 photo samples of the camera of honami couple of weeks ago.
i have found that information:
first pic
Focal length:
4.9mm
iso 160
f/2.0
Centerweighted-Average metering
image size: 5248 × 3936
resolution: 72 Pixel per Inch
info for flash in the sec pic: (iso50)
df:li>50
/rdf:Seq>
exif:ISOSpeedRatings>
exif:ShutterSpeedValue>564/100
exif:ApertureValue>2000000/1000000
exif:ExposureBiasValue>0/3
exif:MeteringMode>2
exif:LightSource>0
exif:Flash rdf:parseType="Resource">
exif:Fired>True
exif:Return>0
exif:Mode>3
exif:Function>False
exif:RedEyeMode>False
exif:Flash>
[ This Message was edited by: sponse on 2013-07-16 11:35 ]
the focal length when viewed on Microsoft's built in EXIF viewer on the windows explorer would reveal 5mm, I suggest you try that
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Posted: 2013-07-16 12:39:19
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I just found that an Israeli guy has the honami in his hands!
he can confirm that the details of the specs are like the ones reported here..
s800
2gb ram
3000mha
he says that the camera is
20.7 megapixels Exmor RS
and there is a photo of the front too:
[ This Message was edited by: sponse on 2013-07-16 11:43 ]
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Posted: 2013-07-16 12:40:51
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http://translate.google.co.in[....]:en-US:official%26channel%3Dnp
Is this the link?
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2013-07-16 11:50 ]
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Posted: 2013-07-16 12:49:17
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I hope that this post isn't too OT...
I am curious about the process behind creating/testing up and coming models and prototypes.
I am sure it varies from company to company, and on the budget assigned and all....
And I am also sorry if this has been covered in previous posts elsewhere, but here it goes...
1) During the development period of new devices such as the Honami, how many prototypes are likely to be built?
2) Do each prototype versions that are getting road tested stay the same in spec terms, or do they go back to the workshop to get them tweaked and upgraded as problems arise/better ideas and solutions appear? Or everytime a modification is required they build new and retire the proto that was used up until then?
3) For device with high profile and expectations with so much riding on it, how many working mules are likely to simultaneously exist (in the same spec, identical units)?
4) Are all proto testers Sony employees? Or are some outside contractors?
5) Where are the Sony Protos created/fabricated? Since they are preproduction, I assume they are individually assembled by hand
6) I am no expert (as can be observed by random questions above!) but surely in terms of time-frame (for Honami intro in late Aug/early Sept), the specs need to be locked down and decided already?? Can I assume that the last couple of months before the unveiling are dedicated to actually stress testing the final spec version (but still pre-production) and heavily using/testing them in real life terms?
7) From past experience (with the benefit of hindsight), roughly what % of info obtained pre-launch is
a)deliberately leaked info for publicity and expectation/hype building
b)leaked info that was meant to stay secret
c)disinformation (as red herring, keep people off track...)
I can't believe so many variants of Honami in different specs exist at this stage in preproduction life.
It may have existed, but to develop and fine tune and then test so many vairants of hardware..... really?
Are teams within Sony mobile dept so compartmentalised that some people know the name only, some people know hardware only, some software only and hardly anybody sees the whole picture?
Or are SONY better than most at keeping info tight within teams?
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Posted: 2013-07-16 12:53:32
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