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SOmething of interest for the Linux-Android lovers here, even before the reelase of the X1
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An Android kernel for the MSM7200A was found quite a while ago, that means we can have dual operating systems on our X1s(lol extremely optimisitic as it has'nt even been released yet) , wont work on the Kaiser or Cruise as its MSM7200.
Link:
http://fandroid.net/content/a[....]nd-android-htc-kaiser-imminent
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Posted: 2008-03-28 07:15:03
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@askd
Actually the E90 is really easy to get on with and acts exactly the same as a normal phone when that's all you want to do as closed it has the same shape and functions as a phone no need to do anything to make or receive calls or any other phone functions. Just when you want to make use of the 4" screen and full QWERTY you flip it open simile really and gives a user experience that is hard o be beaten as you get full web pages with no side scrolling needed. A great view for Calendar ,E-Mails, Documents, PDF's and for watching Films or TV Shows or even your pictures.
I for one much prefer it's solid feel of being a flip rather than a slide and it also seems to have more keys than the X1 keyboard to. Not of course forgetting just how long it has been available and used as opposed to coming later this year and is just about to get a new update very soon that will bring both Flash Lite 3.0 Web Runtime Engine and of course Demand Paging that will enhance it's performance and functionality further.
Not forgetting that now Symbian has been cracked for full access and no longer needs signing it s once again an open system so may see some interesting apps start appearing that making use of this, not sure any will appeal to me but may do to some.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-03-28 06:17 ]
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@Marc,
Will take your word for that(never used an E90) and I agree that a flip feels more solid than a slide. Although after using the TyTn2 for a while which is a tad lighter than the E90 but heavy nontheless I'm looking forward to using the X1. I've heard the screen is very nice to work on as well.
Symbian being cracked pushes all the security down the drain though(for the phone thats been jailbroken). You will see a lot more apps, porting of apps, and such, especially with UIQ, you can put the Walkman media player on the P1i and stuff like that.
It seems like we can have dual boots on the X1 as the latest version of Andoid running kernel version 2.6.24 has just been released a few hours agon on the android development section. This is extremely good news for potential X1 users as you can have dual OS running on the phone, should spice up things now, I'm actually getting excited now
, Symbian getting hacked, Android on the X1, the future looks bright(not Orange
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Actually WM is getting Flashlite 3.0 as well as Silverlight(which Symbian is getting as well).
Demand paging is'nt all that fancy, a fancy term forsomething other OSs have been doing for quite a while, from the Motorola EZX platform which was released in 2001 to WM(Setting up a cache)
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Posted: 2008-03-28 07:24:32
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On 2008-03-28 03:50:40, mib1800 wrote:
btw: as a side note. You know Symbian has been "jail-broken". I think before long you can "tweak" the OS as much as you like like WM.
Yep, and just look at how much unbridled excitement that's caused - so many people merrily tweaking their phones with a rather dubious hack, innocently disabling all their security and leaving themselves open to god knows what. Seems like Symbian was never secure as all that anyway, if just one app is all is takes to bring down the walls, eh? The only real difference between WM and Symbian is that WM owners are generally more aware of what they're doing...
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Posted: 2008-03-28 12:25:14
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Muhammad-Oli Posts: > 500
Regarding camera, if they can put a Sony battery in it (and get HTC to make a correct sized slot for it), then they can put a Sony camera in it (and get HTC to fit it).
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Posted: 2008-03-28 12:30:31
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Hi all
Actually the reports of Symbian S60 being jail broken or left completely open are some what of an exaggeration as the reality it now appears it is not even be close to this.
Whilst it is now possible to access the system files and folders each device has to be cracked separately and only lasts till the phone is restarted or rebooted before needing to be applied again. So really only those that want there device hacked and open and want to mess a round in the file system and folders can do so leaving the rest of us that have no interest no more vulnerable than we were before this announcement.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-03-28 15:52 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-28 16:52:23
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Marc, sorry but I think you're missing the real implication here - if it's possible for an app (appTRK.sys in this case) to undo the security and open access to those system files, then it's possible for any malicious software to do the same thing. Like the average S60 owner, you'll be thinking you're quite safe from all this stuff because you haven't "jailbroken" your phone, when in fact that innocent little card game you downloaded the other day has already done it for you and installed who knows what on your C: drive, all in the same foul swoop.
The age of innocence is over Symbian users.
[ This Message was edited by: Boinng on 2008-03-28 16:17 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-28 17:12:15
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Hi Boinng
It really is not that easy to do and requires a user with a good amount of knowledge to even make it work and it is temporary not permanent so your suggestion is just not possible now even if it may be some time in the distant future.
As i have said currently it is only possible to achieve on one device at a time and even then requires a high level of knowledge and skill to achieve and once the phone is restarted or rebooted it is disabled and no longer possible without re doing the entire hack again.
Marc
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-03-28 16:19 ]
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We're drifting off again now are'nt we
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@Marc,
What Boinng is trying to say is if the end user can do so much, imagine what a programmer or hacker whos been in the industry for over 20-30 yrs can do now that a loop hole has been found.
Now if I wanted to attack the system what I;d do was write a tiny app that jailbreaks the phone, immediately register myself to auto startup without the end users knowledge so even after boot up it automatically starts up, after the start up, once its run I'll have my app jail break the phone once again, without the users knowledge and do whatever damage I want, delete system files etc.., now how WM prevents this is, when you have a corrupt system file it deletes this file and restores it automatically, I dont suppose Symbian would have this feature as they never expected you to access the system files in the first place. What I suggest you do is inform SYmbian about this, but then you'd be hated by Symbian hackers the world over
, but you end up protecting the end users interests which is whom SYmbian is targeted at anyway.
you might say user interaction is required, but what a user can do a programmer can replicate a program to eliminate user inputs if the inputs are the same every time around.
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[ This Message was edited by: aksd on 2008-03-28 16:48 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-28 17:42:47
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@askd and Boinng
Which part of my statement are you finding so hard to understand currently even those that want to can't make it Auto start other wise it would be a permanent hack which it isn't and the facts i've pointed out wouldn't be a problem. But if you feel you are smarter than the Symbian geeks that have got to this stage please feel free to educate them as to what they should do but some how i am sure if what you suggest could be done then they would know about it and do it. Now maybe some time in the future it will be possible but currently it just isn't so as i said currently there is nothing for most users to be concerned with as you need to be very proactive to make it happen. As no one is claiming possible what you are anywhere.
Actually to end this pointless discussion may i suggest you go and read
the thread here at Symbian Freak in the Modding section called Hack to Override Permissions as unfortunately we can't link to that site on this Forum.
Marc
Nokia E90,8GB SDHC, Fring, Tom Tom 6
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[ This Message was edited by: Dogmann on 2008-03-28 18:16 ]
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