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On 2009-12-10 17:25:33, Boinng wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Google were broken up fairly soon, they're too dominant in too many areas at the moment, and seemingly intent on leveraging that for all its worth. There are a few reasons why I wouldn't choose an Android phone personally, and the depth of Google's involvement (whichever phone brand you choose) is at least one of them.
Google isn't all that bad. They've got a lot of information on everyone. but they're the one company that has repeatedly refused to give up that information when the government has requested it from them for whatever purposes.
Sure there's privacy issues, but I think the least of our worries is google at the moment. There are bigger fish out there with worse intentions than giving us products to make our lives easier.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2009-12-10 17:38 ]
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Posted: 2009-12-10 18:36:36
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I have to admit this has crossed my mind many times since the X10 was announced. We all probably use Google far more these days for many different tasks. Now they've stepping into the mobile phone scene, thats yet another part of our lives they have access to.
Google the new Microsoft ?
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Posted: 2009-12-10 21:34:32
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On 2009-12-10 18:36:36, moogoo wrote:
On 2009-12-10 17:25:33, Boinng wrote:
It wouldn't surprise me at all if Google were broken up fairly soon, they're too dominant in too many areas at the moment, and seemingly intent on leveraging that for all its worth. There are a few reasons why I wouldn't choose an Android phone personally, and the depth of Google's involvement (whichever phone brand you choose) is at least one of them.
Google isn't all that bad. They've got a lot of information on everyone. but they're the one company that has repeatedly refused to give up that information when the government has requested it from them for whatever purposes.
Sure there's privacy issues, but I think the least of our worries is google at the moment. There are bigger fish out there with worse intentions than giving us products to make our lives easier.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2009-12-10 17:38 ]
you are VERY wrong! Google HAS many times assisted law enforcement and government when asked & pushed! You really need to watch CNN Headline news specifically titled "behind the mind of google"!!
This IS the biggest fish in regards to data on the Internet. AOL, Yahoo, CISCO, even Microsoft doesn't compare to the amount of personal data information on users!!
I thought I was alone in feeling this way with my post above. Sure Android does offer serious compelling features and add
's mix it's beautiful. Apple does restrict browsers and getting much flack for app approvals and developers - the fat rich originals - getting upset of the decision process but their adjusting. But I can choose my search provider within the browser plugin. One can just go to another Internet search providers URL but I'm concerned the underlying code in android sends info back to google.
X10 is an incredible device and Android allows for much customization to manufacturers so hopefully my fears will be I'll thought. 18mths to hold users data which is so tied and stating it's anonymous (bull) is a long time! Up until October Android was not fully open; the radio stack was released then.
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Posted: 2009-12-11 07:50:14
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you are VERY wrong! Google HAS many times assisted law enforcement and government when asked & pushed! You really need to watch CNN Headline news specifically titled "behind the mind of google"!!
um. obviously as an american corporation they are required to follow the laws in this country. if they are required by the court to give information then they must do so. My point is that they did not just volunteer it, as others do.
Anyway, it's all in the user agreements you ALL agree to when you sign up for an account. Quite frankly, if you don't want your information taken and used, then don't use their products. It's quite simple.
Back on topic...
I look forward to this device! All the rumors about it being available on ATT and Tmobile are interesting but to me, unrealistic. Right now it's estimated to be nearly $800USD when first released. To make it attractive as an option both providers would have to subsidize it down to at least $200 with contract. I highly doubt either of them are willing to flip the bill. I also don't want to see ATT's new data plan requirement for it if it does offer the x10. It's bad enough they're attempting to give incentives for users NOT to use so much data bandwidth on their networks. If they didn't spend all that money trying to sue Verizon for an injunction and paying luke wilson for ridiculous commercials they could have put up some more 3G towers or put it toward the upgrade to LTE...
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Posted: 2009-12-11 09:00:28
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I was looking at HTC bravo's specs last night and saw all the "missing" specs of x10 : radio,HD recording,AMOLED,dual led,divx support,16gb memory,Android 2.0 in package ...
All these features i was talking about that x10 should have... knowing how the market works after all these years!
Plus any possible delay can make x10 to fail, once again
[ This Message was edited by: sealover94 on 2009-12-11 12:37 ]
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Posted: 2009-12-11 13:35:32
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On 2009-12-11 13:35:32, sealover94 wrote:
I was looking at HTC bravo's specs last night and saw all the "missing" specs of x10 : radio,HD recording,AMOLED,dual led,divx support,16gb memory,Android 2.0 in package ...
All these features i was talking about that x10 should have... knowing how the market works after all these years!
Plus any possible delay can make x10 to fail, once again
Then get the Bravo when it comes out....there, no brainer.
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Posted: 2009-12-11 14:18:55
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On 2009-12-11 14:18:55, titus1 wrote:
Then get the Bravo when it comes out....there, no brainer.
A no brainer. I doubt they're quite so relaxed about it over at SE..
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Posted: 2009-12-11 15:01:27
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Available for pre-order at Play -
http://www.play.com/Mobiles/M[....]808/-/Product.html?source=9316
Si
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Posted: 2009-12-11 15:28:07
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Pre-order. | Due for release on 18/01/2010
[ This Message was edited by: juris15 on 2009-12-11 14:58 ]
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Posted: 2009-12-11 15:58:02
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I wonder when the white one is going to be available for preorder.
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Posted: 2009-12-11 16:27:37
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