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goldenface Posts: > 500

Well not all black people do use the word and some still find it very offensive.

So unless we are totally convinced that no-one will be offended when its used then I think its best to keep it at its current status.

Otherwise it also gives people licence to use it in an offensive manner and in situations in which the context or manner in which it is used is dubious or borderline, which will inevitably lead to misunderstandings and conflict.


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Posted: 2007-06-08 10:10:50
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JK Posts: > 500

I got into crap at school once for using the word N word.
It was when a student fell in the bin at school and i quoted a Tupac song. "Growing up as a "N" in a trashcan".... a teacher heard it and I got suspended, rather stupid....

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Posted: 2007-06-08 10:11:24
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maggflodd Posts: > 500


On 2007-06-08 10:10:50, goldenface wrote:
Well not all black people do use the word and some still find it very offensive.

So unless we are totally convinced that no-one will be offended when its used then I think its best to keep it at its current status.

Otherwise it also gives people licence to use it in an offensive manner and in situations in which the context or manner in which it is used is dubious or borderline, which will inevitably lead to misunderstandings and conflict.



...abso-f*cking-lutely right!!!!!
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She is a supporter of the Conservative Party and is said to dislike "people who tell white lies, are ignorant or deliberately stupid".
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Posted: 2007-06-08 10:16:47
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dgilmartin Posts: > 500

Isn't the name GoldenFace a bit racist??
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Posted: 2007-06-08 12:58:16
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batesie Posts: > 500

ive heard the word's 'fat b!tch" and other abusive comments used in the house, yet nothing gets done about it!

i honestly think she just said it without thinking first, which doesnt mean its right but it wasn't said during a dissagreement in a fit of anger.

I personally think there are a lot of over sensitive people in this country, i've been called some nasty things, also in a racial way. Its all just names to me, whatever someone calls me.

how about when ziggy was being chased by all the girls, trying to remove his clothes, by the end he was getting quite agitated and looked uncomfortable, if it was the other way around, and it was 1 girl being chased by 7 or 8 blokes trying take her clothes off, there would be an uproar.

on the same note, if charly said oi white girl, nothing would be done about it.....

to summarise, i feel words are words nothing more. BUT abuse is abuse and shouldnt be tolerated, wether its racial or not.
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Posted: 2007-06-08 12:59:27
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batesie Posts: > 500

BBC News Vote
http://newsvote.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/6732873.stm

Was Big Brother right to remove Emily from the house?
Yes - 53.00%
No - 47.00%
15769 Votes Cast

seems opinion is split right down the middle!

I must quote this also from the "Have your Say" BBC Site:
Added: Thursday, 7 June, 2007, 14:08 GMT 15:08 UK

I'm Asian and have been on the receiving end of racism.

Emily's comment was NOT racist. You have got to be seriously demented and victim-obsessed to take her comment as anything but light-hearted use of a entire phrase to Charley totally in keeping with the context of their dancing.

We as a country are going mad. I'm sick and tired of this censorship. Channel 4 - I thought you had more guts and brains than to do this. Pathetic.

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Posted: 2007-06-08 13:05:48
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maggflodd Posts: > 500


On 2007-06-08 12:59:27, batesie wrote:
ive heard the word's 'fat b!tch" and other abusive comments used in the house, yet nothing gets done about it!



I personally think there are a lot of over sensitive people in this country,

....
on the same note, if charly said oi white girl, nothing would be done about it.....

to summarise, i feel words are words nothing more. BUT abuse is abuse and shouldnt be tolerated, wether its racial or not.

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without those "oversensitive people" we'd still have slavery, gay-bashing, we wouldn't have human/civill rights, minimum wage, animal rights etc etc...
Also: it's a different thing calling a white girl "a white girl"... non-whites, in general, have never been in a position of power over their "white" "friends", have they; therefore the connotations are entirely different! not to mention that "white" is a fairly apt description for a white person, unless you use the generally genetically inaccurate "caucasian"!!! "n*gger" on the other hand has at no point been an accurate description of anything except for the speakers lack of refection!!!!
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Posted: 2007-06-08 13:12:22
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goldenface Posts: > 500


On 2007-06-08 12:58:16, dgilmartin wrote:
Isn't the name GoldenFace a bit racist??



LMAO What should I change my name to?

I've never been called a dirty rotten goldenface before

@magglodd

Good point matey!

@batesie

Well I do think Channel4 had some guts in showing the footage of it actually being said, it has upset some people but I think they're damned if they do and damned if they don't.

You see you and I might think the world has gone mad being too sensitive as we're grown up and can deal with this sort of thing.

However, try explaining to a young child why they're being called a certain name at school which has seen them come home crying?

I think that its OK to use the word in a friendly way amongst your peers who you are close to but I wouldn't dare use it to refer to a man of the cloth.

Imagine the uproar if Chris Moyles refered to Sir Trevor Macdonald as a Nigga on his radio show? I don't think there would be too many people impressed with that.

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Posted: 2007-06-08 13:21:16
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maggflodd Posts: > 500


On 2007-06-08 12:58:16, dgilmartin wrote:
Isn't the name GoldenFace a bit racist??

... no, but if you say metal visage!!!!
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Posted: 2007-06-08 13:27:16
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batesie Posts: > 500

after 'it' happened charlie was saying she wasnt bothered and didnt feel it was meant in a racist way. even still other housemates carried on at her and were trying to convince her she deserved the punishment!

seriously though i'll say it again, any form of malicous abuse including racist abuse is tottally unacceptable, but this was no way an abusive comment, just a bad choice of word for the conversation.

IMO she should be let back in...
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