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On 2008-03-26 00:25:55, catapult wrote:
@Radiux399
I'm not sure if you've already mentioned it before but I would like know which firmware version does your t650i have? Mine is currently with R8BB001.
R7AA024
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Posted: 2008-03-26 00:56:12
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Would you happen to have a file of the original camera driver for firmware R7AA024? If not, would you be able to tell me what camera driver version to look for so that I can try it via XS++.
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Posted: 2008-03-26 01:02:15
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Here is an example of the noise reduction that I am referring to. I took both shots in a somewhat dark environment. The K850 is on the left, the T650i on the right. Both are a 100% full sized crop straight from the phone. Click to see the full image.
What should become immediately apparent is just how much detail was lost on the left shot. The telephone in particular is so smeared that its almost impossible to tell what it is. The edges of all high contrasting objects have a "fuzz" around them. The wood grain on the table has lost all its features. Even if I were to use a noise removal program on the left shot, it still would not bring back all the detail thrown away. I'm not trying to say that the T650 is superior to the K850 in all ways, but it certainly has its advantages.
Note: You can actually see my T650 in the left shot on my desk
[ This Message was edited by: Radiux399 on 2008-03-26 00:17 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-26 01:08:19
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Would you happen to have a file of the original camera driver for firmware R7AA024? If not, would you be able to tell me what camera driver version to look for so that I can try it via XS++.
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Posted: 2008-03-26 01:13:46
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@Raidux... that K850 indoor pic looks HORRIBLE against the T650...
T650 will Never produce better indoor pics then K850.. its techical impossible...end of story
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-03-26 00:20 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-26 01:17:47
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On 2008-03-26 01:08:19, Radiux399 wrote:
Here is an example of the noise reduction that I am referring to. I took both shots in a somewhat dark environment. The K850 is on the left, the T650i on the right. Both are a 100% full sized crop straight from the phone. Click to see the full image.
What should become immediately apparent is just how much detail was lost on the left shot. The telephone in particular is so smeared that its almost impossible to tell what it is. The edges of all high contrasting objects have a "fuzz" around them. The wood grain on the table has lost all its features. Even if I were to use a noise removal program on the left shot, it still would not bring back all the detail thrown away. I'm not trying to say that the T650 is superior to the K850 in all ways, but it certainly has its advantages.
Note: You can actually see my T650 in the left shot on my desk
[ This Message was edited by: Radiux399 on 2008-03-26 00:17 ]
just : LOL
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Posted: 2008-03-26 01:19:52
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On 2008-03-26 01:17:47, plankgatan wrote:
@Raidux... that K850 indoor pic looks HORRIBLE against the T650...
T650 will Never produce better indoor pics then K850.. its techical impossible...end of story
If its impossible, then why did the T650 take a better shot?
Also, i'm not trying to start a war here or anything. I'm just posting my findings.
[ This Message was edited by: Radiux399 on 2008-03-26 00:25 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-26 01:24:01
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which T650 pictures is from your T650 ???? (except for this compare pictures of course)
once again im wondering how this skiing pictures can look so good... im stubborn you know... he he he
ps... look inside the K850 thread at some indoor pics... then look at some T650 indoor pics...do i really have to say anything else ????
this is indoor K850... 100% original picture.. (a T650 will never produce this details at indoor..no flash of course)
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[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-03-26 00:28 ]
[ This Message was edited by: plankgatan on 2008-03-26 00:33 ]
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Posted: 2008-03-26 01:25:34
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The K850 has a lot of advantages when it comes to indoors photography - xenon flash, image stabilization, and a larger aperture which allows more light in.
However, its biggest downfall is that it simply has too much noise, especially when the ISO ramps up and the noise reduction tries to compensate. You get that blurry mess that I posted above. This should NOT come as a surprise to you, because if you really do own a K850, then you would see this noise suppression on every single one of your shots when viewed at 100%. If you shrink the picture down then it becomes less apparent sure, but you didn't buy a 5mp camera to view your pictures at 800x600, now did you?
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Posted: 2008-03-26 01:34:43
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Plankgatan, can you post the full 5mp file of the image you just posted?
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Posted: 2008-03-26 01:38:20
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