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On 2008-08-12 11:45:42, mode wrote:
On 2008-08-11 18:45:39, tobias84 wrote:
Well wifi and 3G can be turned of to save battery, but you need the screen.. And if you really wan't to rec good video you shoulde use an cam corder.
The most vital function in a phone is just the "phone" part, that is more vital that it works, and you got battery to make a call than rather use the phone as cam corder.
You probably haven't heard of the term "all in one device" and that's probably because to date, SE hasn't got any (refering to today's context). And just so you know, eventhough it may seem that the existence of this "all in one device" is far fetched and something out of a futuristic, star wars-esque sci-fiction movie, it has a really big market here on earth. Have you heard of N95? It's a cool phone from almost 2 years ago with the stupid VGA recording capability. Probably you think that's unimaginable and even unuseful, again because to date SE doesn't have one with such capability in the market. Sheesh!
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[ This Message was edited by: mode on 2008-08-12 11:02 ]
Of course i have heard the term all in once, and just look att the first version at N95, heard a lot of people that the battery was dranied on just one day and have to charge it every singel day, i Rather have o phone with good camera and more good features with long battery life. To make a movie or long films a cam corder at mutch better than a mobilephone.
[ This Message was edited by: tobias84 on 2008-08-12 11:13 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-12 12:11:47
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On 2008-08-12 12:11:47, tobias84 wrote:
On 2008-08-12 11:45:42, mode wrote:
On 2008-08-11 18:45:39, tobias84 wrote:
Well wifi and 3G can be turned of to save battery, but you need the screen.. And if you really wan't to rec good video you shoulde use an cam corder.
The most vital function in a phone is just the "phone" part, that is more vital that it works, and you got battery to make a call than rather use the phone as cam corder.
You probably haven't heard of the term "all in one device" and that's probably because to date, SE hasn't got any (refering to today's context). And just so you know, eventhough it may seem that the existence of this "all in one device" is far fetched and something out of a futuristic, star wars-esque sci-fiction movie, it has a really big market here on earth. Have you heard of N95? It's a cool phone from almost 2 years ago with the stupid VGA recording capability. Probably you think that's unimaginable and even unuseful, again because to date SE doesn't have one with such capability in the market. Sheesh!
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[ This Message was edited by: mode on 2008-08-12 11:02 ]
Of course i have heard the term all in once, and just look att the first version at N95, heard a lot of people that the battery was dranied on just one day and have to charge it every singel day, i Rather have o phone with good camera and more good features with long battery life. To make a movie or long films a cam corder at mutch better than a mobilephone.
[ This Message was edited by: tobias84 on 2008-08-12 11:13 ]
Well, I bet C905 battery will not last a day if the gps and wifi are being used or you rec at high quality VGA 30fps (not that C905 can do it). Simple common sense here that some people just dont understand.
Also, while you are at it you should consider bringing the rest of your house content with you everywhere you go so that you will not miss any spur of the moment events.
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Posted: 2008-08-13 05:33:19
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@tobias84
C905 is just VGA recording short of being a high end convergience device, therefore, the battery will drain anyway more so if you use GPS than video record, so I suggest you save that defence for something more logical. Many are willing to trade battery life with features since you're not going to use all the features at once but only when you need it. It sucks that I can't have C905 just because I won't be able to record my daughter's spur of the moment antics in high quality when we're out for shopping or dinner, just the kind of moments you don't bring a camcorder along.
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[ This Message was edited by: mode on 2008-08-13 06:10 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-13 07:09:03
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Battery has a little implication, related to the implementation of VGA rec.
The main problem is, VGA rec needs powerful processor, and current C905 platform doesn't fast enough to do VGA rec. Just take a look at other ARM9 that record
QVGA@30fps. Even if you rec QVGA with your K850 or W910, the frames can drop below 25fps, simply because of not enough processing power. ARM9 already can't do QVGA recording flawlessly. VGA will make it more crappy.
Imagine if they using SO905iCS OMAP platform in C905, instead of K850 ARM9:
- 16.7M, VGA resolution screen with BRAVIA chip.
- Enough processor power to record
VGA@30fps video.
- Dedicated 3D video accelerator chip.
- Dedicated Audio DSP.
Sure OMAP has a cons, it will drains battery life. ARM9 has a less battery consumption, because it's slower. About battery life, it can be easily solved:
On 2008-08-11 19:08:53, Hiron wrote:
I agree it drains battery life, but why don't use battery that has a larger capacity, just like Xperia?
Hiron
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2008-08-13 06:23 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-13 07:19:32
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Why have they only given it a 2.4in screen? ? ? Nokia is moving to 3in+ shortly. No wonder SE is going Motorola's way. I am aware of their financial troubles,but at least they should make 1 (ONE) decent Hi-end device - or am I asking for too much ?
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Posted: 2008-08-13 14:27:09
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On 2008-08-13 14:27:09, mario2004 wrote:
Why have they only given it a 2.4in screen? ? ? Nokia is moving to 3in+ shortly. No wonder SE is going Motorola's way. I am aware of their financial troubles,but at least they should make 1 (ONE) decent Hi-end device - or am I asking for too much ?
This is the C905 thead so don't pretend you have an interest in the phone when really you're just coming here to wind people up. You're fooling no-one.
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Posted: 2008-08-13 14:29:25
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Why have they only given it a 2.4in screen? ? ? Nokia is moving to 3in+ shortly...
strange way of thinking, something like: let us eat sh*t, after all million of flies cannot be wrong
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Posted: 2008-08-13 14:41:20
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I don't mind 2.4" screen, as I thought it's the best result for QVGA screen.
Larger screen would degrade overall UI looks, as the font edge becomes visible.
You should increase screen res to VGA, then the best size is around 3.2".
But it means SE needs to use decent platform, something like OMAP. That means higher costs, more battery consumption. C905 is feature phone.
By using OMAP platform, adding office_pdf reader, and flash browsing support into A200, that would makes C905 become a smartphone. No need Symbian
Hiron
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Posted: 2008-08-13 15:30:22
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I agree, given the res the display size is approppriate. Yes it would be nice if this phone has vga recording and display, but shit we can't have everything. The only other phone on the market that can be classified as an "all in one" really is N95 (however it doesn't have a touchscreen, so even that theory is blown out of the water).
So no phone on the market HAS IT ALL, so all we can do is choose the phone that most suits our needs.
For me, the C905 has all the advantages of the W910 (one of SE's hottest non-smartphones to date bar the crap camera), a decent camera (with light AND flash) and wifi plus other great features.
I'm sold on the C905. It replaces they G900 as my next phone.
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Posted: 2008-08-13 18:17:14
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C905 is my next phone too
About vga; will be in some next phone
C905 isn't last !
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Posted: 2008-08-14 00:51:41
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