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On 2008-04-04 11:35:50, aksd wrote:
In the same way SPB shell or point ui replaces the today screen, verysuperfically, you can make sure it does'nt if you want.
You'll have pople asking me now how I know without using the phone, lol, but in WM you can always return to the today screen, it cannot be completely replaced. The panels are more like a launcher than a today screen replacement, they might call it a replacement of the today screen but its not, as soon as you press the end key it should go back to the WM today screen as far as I know, otherwise with a tiny registry edit you can make the WM today screen appear with a touch of the red key.
Max, never thought about modding the panels, but like you said its going to happen, should be fun(If I buy the handset
, seems like HTC have a few big launches planned which wil out gun the X1
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Well, SE have said they plan not to restrict access to the panels and they encourage third party additions. But imo even simple xml "hacks" will be possible quite easily. It'll be much like menu.ml modding as we do with SE A100 mobiles.
@Muhammad Oli, yeah, what aksd says
Xperia is not a complete replacement of the Today Screen, it's a shell that runs over the top. I'd be surprised if there wasn't an option to set the Today screen as the active standby screen rather than Xperia. Or the ability to set any panel (and Today can bet set as one of the panels) as the active standby screen.
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Posted: 2008-04-04 15:07:23
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@max_wedge: Ah right, I see how its going to work out. I'll leave you guys alone now.
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Posted: 2008-04-04 15:14:21
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On 2008-04-04 15:14:21, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
@max_wedge: Ah right, I see how its going to work out. I'll leave you guys alone now.
You dont need to leave us alone, it would get boring
. There has to be somebody who asks questions otherwise whats the point
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Posted: 2008-04-04 15:38:20
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The panels look similar to spb screen with plugins. In the yt video, the only plugin that is currently working is the clock
. Instead of one customisable standby screen, you now have 9 screens. I wonder what would happen when the plugins on all the 9 panels are loaded up. This may eat up all the 128Mb RAM leaving nothing for other things.
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Posted: 2008-04-04 18:38:25
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On 2008-04-04 18:38:25, mib1800 wrote:
The panels look similar to spb screen with plugins. In the yt video, the only plugin that is currently working is the clock
. Instead of one customisable standby screen, you now have 9 screens. I wonder what would happen when the plugins on all the 9 panels are loaded up. This may eat up all the 128Mb RAM leaving nothing for other things.
Its nowehere like SPB 2.0 if thats what you mean. Its far more advanced and got hell of a lot more eye candy
. With all plugins loaded up it should eat into something like 10-20MB of the 80MB available RAM. My tytn2 has never dropped belo 28MB free RAM with about 12 apps open simultaneously(depends on the apps of course)
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Posted: 2008-04-04 19:13:04
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it all depends how the panels work. For example panels that are just short cuts to the image gallery, or music player etc presumably are just fancy thumbnails - the app itself won't load unless you select the panel.
XML panels also shouldn't take up too much memory.
However any panel that displays dynamic content (presumably the clock for example) would use a bit of memory, depending on the type of content.
Any widget panel (for example a c++ panel) would presumably use a fair bit of memory depending on the task it's performing.
There are already Today screen plugins that are running apps. For example you can get a Today screen plugin that incorporates a music player - but the music player is running the whole time the plug in is active. I personally don't use this plug, since it seems just as easy to have a shortcut to music (and to just wait the second or two for the app to load when I want music).
But then other plugins are too useful and use very little memory, so I expect panels will be the same. It will be up to the end user what panels they use, but the default panels will be relatively low users of ram.
So if you want to slow your phone down with useless crap you will be free to do so, just as you can now with today screen plugins.
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Posted: 2008-04-05 00:46:13
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@aksd:
Its far more advanced and got hell of a lot more eye candy
Yes, the panel looks nicer than those from spb or htc but the concept of plug-ins is the same. I remembered installing spb on my Exec and it is a performance hog just for ONE customisable screen let alone the X1 9 panels. Like max_wedge was saying, you can't blame SE for lag if you load up the panels.
Actually, the panels are similar to S60 multimedia menu (or s40 standby panels and more recently the S60 fp2 or UIQ3 ) except that it is more fanciful. The main difference is X1 panels are add-on programs (i.e. take a hit on the OS) whereas the others are built-in/integrated as part of the OS.
Hopefully SE allows the option for the X1 panels to be unloaded. I would not want to use it if it has the lag shown in the yt video. I would rather stick to vanilla WM standby and menu (and maybe gain 20-40Mb of free RAM
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[ This Message was edited by: mib1800 on 2008-04-05 03:55 ]
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Posted: 2008-04-05 04:52:59
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If it's that much, definitely.
I expect at most though a standard panels config would use no more than .5-1MB, maybe 2-3MB at a stretch. We don't really know what's causing the drag on this prototype. Notice also, the camera didn't work
So I think we can consider this a reasonably unplolished prototype!
It's common to see slow pre-release phones that improve drastically upon release.
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Posted: 2008-04-05 09:03:15
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@max_wedge
0.5-1 mb for 9 panels? I dont think so. More like per panel. If I remember correctly the spb screen app are something like 6-8mb.
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Posted: 2008-04-05 12:18:02
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the panels could be as low as 2-3MB, my impression of spb is it could be better designed. The PointUI shell is pretty zippy, so shells don't have to be painfully slow. My hope is SE will pay enough attention to the code to atleast get it down to 3-4MB. But your figure is possible.
Still a lot short of 20MB imho
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Posted: 2008-04-05 13:43:31
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