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On 2013-07-26 17:31:08, moogoo wrote:
I wouldn't say it's impossible. If there's a way, Sony would be the one to figure it out. People in the past, surely have said it was impossible to have laptops half an inch thick and ~1 pound, but today it is reality.
If there is BIONZ, it'd probably be a software implementation. As much as having an awesome camera in Honami would be, I'm guessing Sony does not want to kill their point and shoot/compact camera sales either. So, there will have to be some major differences.
I just want this damn thing announced already!! I GOTS TO KNOW!!!
Laptops are thin and light because we have made major improvements in hardware (Intel has gone from traditional motherboards to something that looks more like a system on a chip for the latest generations aswell as drops in node from 45nm to 22nm) and we have made major improvements in screen technology to allow thin screens. Your comparison with laptops is no different than looking at older smartphones, they were much thicker and heavier than the current ones.
We havent made such dramatic improvements in camera sensors however. Sony is an excellent hardware company but they cant magically make something to be smaller than it actually is, the sensor that was rumored is very big, it simply would not have fit in that leaked prototype. Nokia is also excellent with hardware, i doubt they WANTED the Lumia 1020 to have such a big hump, they simply had no other choice other than making the whole phone 14 mm thick
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Posted: 2013-07-26 18:00:35
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On 2013-07-26 18:00:35, Jubei1 wrote:
Nokia is also excellent with hardware, i doubt they WANTED the Lumia 1020 to have such a big hump, they simply had no other choice other than making the whole phone 14 mm thick
The packaging job on the 1020 is pretty amazing actually.. to fit the lens, sensor, and xenon flash in that body is not an easy task.
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Posted: 2013-07-26 18:37:23
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^indeed.
it's not just about improvements in hardware tech. if that were the only factor, then every laptop or phone with the same specs would be the same size, but they aren't. they vary due to engineering design, materials, and fitting the components together.
Back in the day, while most laptops were nearly an inch thick, my VAIO R505 was half the thickness. Why? Not because it had drastically new hardware than anybody else. It was simply a marvel of engineering, and praised as such.
All I'm saying is sometimes things that seem impossible, really aren't.
So, with all these leaks with photos of the device and camera UI shots, I'm wondering why there haven't been any actual sample photos leaked. Usually, when all these leaks happen there are sample photos too. I know razec has seen some, but damn it, i want to too!!
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Posted: 2013-07-26 18:55:56
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On 2013-07-26 18:55:56, moogoo wrote:
^indeed.
it's not just about improvements in hardware tech. if that were the only factor, then every laptop or phone with the same specs would be the same size, but they aren't. they vary due to engineering design, materials, and fitting the components together.
Back in the day, while most laptops were nearly an inch thick, my VAIO R505 was half the thickness. Why? Not because it had drastically new hardware than anybody else. It was simply a marvel of engineering, and praised as such.
All I'm saying is sometimes things that seem impossible, really aren't.
So, with all these leaks with photos of the device and camera UI shots, I'm wondering why there haven't been any actual sample photos leaked. Usually, when all these leaks happen there are sample photos too. I know razec has seen some, but damn it, i want to too!!
The reason every phone/laptop is not the same size and weight is because its not economically feasible. A 300 dollar laptop is a low margin device, it makes no sense for any company to spend money to make it light and thin, its there for a market that doesnt care about that. But even the cheapest laptop today is lighter and slimmer than the cheapest laptop 5 years ago
A camera sensor is nothing like any of the components in a computer, thats why we have seen slim and light laptops and smartphones but we have never seen a camera phone that is slim and light. Why didnt Sony make the Satio super slim since its all about engineering and not about improvements to hardware?
If you go and look up the size of the camera module that has been rumored, you would see that its not going to fit in a phone that is supposedly 8 mm thick. I like Sony too but even they have to work within what is physically possible, its not magic
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Posted: 2013-07-26 19:34:57
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Some time ago I was really wondering why, in the name of the One Sony philosophy and for the fact the the Bravia and the Xperia are so close, they didn't go with the Sense Of Quartz style for the Honami... I really like it Diamond Edge plus greeny/blue color on the sides... I really like it! and then BAM here comes the rumors
Of all the prototypes we have seen till now this is the one that resembles the most the Sense Of Quartz style, and I like it... (personally I prefer the edgy lines to the rounded but it's still awesome
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It is really similar to the real Sense Of Quartz... look!
Here's an article about the Sense Of Quartz Design
it's interesting! give it a shot!
http://www.sony.net/Fun/desig[....]roduct/sense_of_quartz/01.html
Another thing that sets apart the Sense Of Quartz design seems to be the notification LED... so I hope that the Honami will have something in the line of the Xperia Miro/L/M... I liked it it was descrete and classy
higly personalisable obviously! any info?
And also any definitive info about the S-Master MX amplifier?... that was the thing that I cared the most (with ta large battery an the IP 58!!!)
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Posted: 2013-07-26 20:08:59
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I've been wondering lately... Did Sony completely forgot about keyboard phones? Xperia Pro was a nice device, and as far as I know, Xperia X10 Mini Pro and Mini Pro sold like hot cakes. Is there any info on a Sony with a slideout keyboard phone for next year?
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Posted: 2013-07-27 04:11:45
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Honami and its version for Brazil are now FCC approved with a suggested formal market launch date of September 30th.
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Posted: 2013-07-27 12:01:30
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The sense of quartz design on the Bravia is absolutely gorgeous
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Posted: 2013-07-27 12:22:21
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On 2013-07-27 12:01:30, xell wrote:
Honami and its version for Brazil are now FCC approved with a suggested formal market launch date of September 30th.
Wow that will be very quick SEPT 1st week announcement and month end launch this will be epic.Will it be global launch?
Can you tell if it has Xenon
Was the leak Z refresh or Honami itself ?
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Posted: 2013-07-27 12:29:02
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FFC report confirms magnetic connector.
Brand Name: Sony
Description: Magnetic Plug
Model Name or Number: EC801
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And:
The equipment under test (EUT) is a model of GSM/UMTS/LTE mobile phone with integrated antenna and inbuilt Li-Polymer battery.
The EUT supports GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz bands, WCDMA FDD bands 1/2/4/5/8 and LTE FDD bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/20. It also supports GPRS service with multi-slots class 33 and EGPRS service with multi-slots class 33 too. The HSDPA and HSUPA features are also supported. It has MP3, camera, FM radio, USB memory, GPS receiver, NFC, Mobile High-Definition Link (MHL), Bluetooth (EDR and Bluetooth 4.0), WLAN
(802.11 a/b/g/n/ac) and Wi-Fi hotspot function.
[ This Message was edited by: DexterMoser on 2013-07-27 13:06 ]
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Posted: 2013-07-27 13:59:12
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