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@hiron-whats the difference between the black and brown versions?
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Posted: 2008-08-14 21:22:10
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was just reading the c905 white paper-it says that the video call function has 16 x zoom-same as the main camera.
is it possible that seen as there is no visible video call camera that video calls are made with the main camera?
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Posted: 2008-08-14 22:13:28
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hey micks, sorry about the earlier comment.
I was wondering what q's or months these new cybershots will be coming about, preferably the 10mp with 3x zoom, i do not want to be investing in a 400£ phone when one just round the corner will be better
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Posted: 2008-08-14 23:51:41
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@daviep,
To do or not doing that is your choice. Brown is better, but feel free to buy the black one, because it's already good too. The different lays around a build concept revision.
Don't ask me further, because I can get wrong. They may do this already in black ver, who knows?
@harry,
I heard Micks says if everything goes as planned, announced Q2, and released 2 months later in Q3. But again, if everything goes as planned. They can delayed it, based on market condition, especially C905 sales. Can you reconfirm it, Micks?
As for now, better to buy C905 first. They need starting income, right? And I has a a habit to changed my phone every 1 year, and your C905 can least almost 1 year. If you wait for this 10MP, you can be forced to wait again if you hear a new phone, and ended up to never buy a phone
@micks,
I've been dissappointed since their plan about CMOS sensor on future CyberShot. Can you ask your friend to makes suggestion memo to incorporating
SuperHAD CCD into upcoming CyberShot? Just look at Sony DSC-T300 or upcoming T-700 in sony.com
Imagine if the sensor are the same.
Hiron
[ This Message was edited by: Hiron on 2008-08-15 07:46 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-15 05:41:53
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On 2008-08-14 09:37:02, micks2005 wrote:
3.0 inch screen size, 16.4 million colors, new battery, new hardware, 10.2MP pixel count, 3XOptical Zoom, slider form factor, HD rec. in VGA, TV Out, Wi-fi, GPS, Stereo speakers.
HD rec. in VGA??? What's that supposed to mean?
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Posted: 2008-08-15 07:42:29
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On 2008-08-14 09:37:02, micks2005 wrote:
Hey Guys,
Well for all of them who keep moaning & groaning wid regards to the screen size and vid capture, well SE has something for you too ... 2009
The new cyber-shot for next yr ...
3.0 inch screen size, 16.4 million colors, new battery, new hardware, 10.2MP pixel count, 3XOptical Zoom, slider form factor, HD rec. in VGA, TV Out, Wi-fi, GPS, Stereo speakers.
So when this is released we shall see who says what ... as this cyber-shot is being developed again by SE Japan for European countries and this time nothing would be left out.
More info. in the coming months.
Ciao.
Where did you get this info??? this would be my perfect phone
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Posted: 2008-08-15 08:37:12
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@kreacher,
I thought he means VGA res (640x480) video, encoded using H264. HD res means 1920x1080, which is quite too fast, even for future phone. But if SE implement Full HD, that's what I called innovation.
@eltoffer,
Tech gadget always improving fast. Now we can say it's a perfect phone. But let's say 2 years ahead, and we will find out that these phone is outdated. Human are never satisfied, always looking for a better one.
Hiron
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Posted: 2008-08-15 08:52:02
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On 2008-08-14 03:17:33, mode wrote:
On 2008-08-13 18:17:14, max_wedge wrote:
So no phone on the market HAS IT ALL, so all we can do is choose the phone that most suits our needs.
Welcome back mate, if SE were to lead again wouldn't it help to produce A FIRST? 'No phone has it so SE don't need it' is not the ideal that SE was built upon, and you and I both know it
Thanks buddy, good to be back
I don't disagree with you. Trouble is the reality is different to the ideal, and SE are no better nor worse than any other OEM in this regard (well better than most, but on the same level as Nokia, Samsung, and a bit better than Moto)
There are virtually no Windows phones that have it all.
SE hasn't had a true all-in-one since the K700 (in the non-smartphone segment), and the P800 in the smartphone segment.
Nokia's only potential all-in-one is the N95, but only if you compare it against non-smartphones. In the non-smartphone segment it has no touchscreen so can't be classed as an all-in-one. I know people will argue this, but without either a qwerty kyb or touchscreen the N95 cannot be considered a smartphone all-in-one.
In the non-smartphone segment the C905 is very close to an all in one class device and not that far from the ideal. Also, SE non-smartphones have the best java implementation of any other OEM. Many people laugh at this but you have to actually explore the java platform on an SE phone to realise how useful it is. The SE implementation is revolutionary for a non-smartphone, and on top of that there is a huge amount of choice in java programs giving pretty much the same types of add on support as a true smartphone os. (one of the few shortcomings is the lack of call management type software, of which only Symian is currently capable. Not even WM has this ability)
So I guess what I'm saying is the feature creep in modern phones has accelerated to the point where no OEM can keep up. We are probably beyond the point where we can expect any OEM to produce all-in-one's like the good old days.
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Posted: 2008-08-15 10:13:45
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On 2008-08-15 10:13:45, max_wedge wrote:
On 2008-08-14 03:17:33, mode wrote:
On 2008-08-13 18:17:14, max_wedge wrote:
So no phone on the market HAS IT ALL, so all we can do is choose the phone that most suits our needs.
Welcome back mate, if SE were to lead again wouldn't it help to produce A FIRST? 'No phone has it so SE don't need it' is not the ideal that SE was built upon, and you and I both know it
Thanks buddy, good to be back
I don't disagree with you. Trouble is the reality is different to the ideal, and SE are no better nor worse than any other OEM in this regard (well better than most, but on the same level as Nokia, Samsung, and a bit better than Moto)
There are virtually no Windows phones that have it all.
SE hasn't had a true all-in-one since the K700 (in the non-smartphone segment), and the P800 in the smartphone segment.
Nokia's only potential all-in-one is the N95, but only if you compare it against non-smartphones. In the non-smartphone segment it has no touchscreen so can't be classed as an all-in-one. I know people will argue this, but without either a qwerty kyb or touchscreen the N95 cannot be considered a smartphone all-in-one.
In the non-smartphone segment the C905 is very close to an all in one class device and not that far from the ideal. Also, SE non-smartphones have the best java implementation of any other OEM. Many people laugh at this but you have to actually explore the java platform on an SE phone to realise how useful it is. The SE implementation is revolutionary for a non-smartphone, and on top of that there is a huge amount of choice in java programs giving pretty much the same types of add on support as a true smartphone os. (one of the few shortcomings is the lack of call management type software, of which only Symian is currently capable. Not even WM has this ability)
So I guess what I'm saying is the feature creep in modern phones has accelerated to the point where no OEM can keep up. We are probably beyond the point where we can expect any OEM to produce all-in-one's like the good old days.
lol all this talk about oem's makes me want to build a fone myself just like my computer. I wonder when they will start selling seperate parts for mobile phones
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Posted: 2008-08-15 10:43:58
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On 2008-08-15 10:13:45, max_wedge wrote:
On 2008-08-14 03:17:33, mode wrote:
On 2008-08-13 18:17:14, max_wedge wrote:
So no phone on the market HAS IT ALL, so all we can do is choose the phone that most suits our needs.
Welcome back mate, if SE were to lead again wouldn't it help to produce A FIRST? 'No phone has it so SE don't need it' is not the ideal that SE was built upon, and you and I both know it
Thanks buddy, good to be back
I don't disagree with you. Trouble is the reality is different to the ideal, and SE are no better nor worse than any other OEM in this regard (well better than most, but on the same level as Nokia, Samsung, and a bit better than Moto)
There are virtually no Windows phones that have it all.
SE hasn't had a true all-in-one since the K700 (in the non-smartphone segment), and the P800 in the smartphone segment.
Nokia's only potential all-in-one is the N95, but only if you compare it against non-smartphones. In the non-smartphone segment it has no touchscreen so can't be classed as an all-in-one. I know people will argue this, but without either a qwerty kyb or touchscreen the N95 cannot be considered a smartphone all-in-one.
In the non-smartphone segment the C905 is very close to an all in one class device and not that far from the ideal. Also, SE non-smartphones have the best java implementation of any other OEM. Many people laugh at this but you have to actually explore the java platform on an SE phone to realise how useful it is. The SE implementation is revolutionary for a non-smartphone, and on top of that there is a huge amount of choice in java programs giving pretty much the same types of add on support as a true smartphone os. (one of the few shortcomings is the lack of call management type software, of which only Symian is currently capable. Not even WM has this ability)
So I guess what I'm saying is the feature creep in modern phones has accelerated to the point where no OEM can keep up. We are probably beyond the point where we can expect any OEM to produce all-in-one's like the good old days.
WHAT! The K700, an AIO. It had a VGA camera, no gps, wifi, 3g, this couldn't have been an AIO. It may have been pretty advance for its time, however, this still doesn't make it an AIO. The C905 would be the first SE phone to be an AIO as it has a feature list that is the same or greater than the n95 (the benchmark for 2.5 years) Pretty soon though, I reckon, there will be another feature that would seem necessary to have on phones, make a new AIO breed.
The future of technology is being able to run a bath, at a desired temperature, for a desired time, from your car, which is telling you the directions home, whilst reading you the latest sports news, it is also taking 1gigapixel photos as you drive and uploading them to google maps for street view. When you get home it will wirelessly sync, charge and start playing "harri's bathtime playlist" automatically. As you undress, you give it a voice command it to turn the oven on to 200oC and buy your wife the ideal present for her birthday between £100-150 as you forgot it was tomorrow. That is the future AIO my friend.
*I did get very carried away, sorry
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