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I've been waiting for it aswell; nothing so far.
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Posted: 2007-09-07 19:40:51
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It just says available soon with the month, no dates.

[ This Message was edited by: kreacher on 2007-09-07 19:24 ]
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Posted: 2007-09-07 20:23:52
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Dude - EDGE is a VERY GOOD solution and is STILL valid today. BlackBerry's deliver incredible fast push email (non HTML for now but HTML support is coming with BES 4.3 by end of this year; compressed of course). GOVERNMENT employees use this solution so that prooves that EDGE has its place.

Vodafone in both Europe, France, Belgium have deployed EDGE not jsut for the blackberry corporate devices but also because it operates in a FURTHER range than UMTS/HSDPA at a MUCH cheaper costs (no increased licensing bids/purchases for bandwidth) and this was mostly a software upgrade with a few hotswap card hardware upgrades on some switches & tower base stations. T-Mobile in Europe also have deployed EDGE data speeds. Its main reasoning ..... QUALITY OF SERVICE alternative for UMTS users becoming out of range or network issues when UMTS is not available .... I'd rather be streaming a 240x320 15-25fps video with AAC stereo audio @64kbps totaling a full bit package of guessing say, 200-250kbps on UMTS and drop to EDGE than GPRS and have that video feed be killed outright. Think about this .... 386kbps maximum for UMTS ... realworld around 360kbps down to say 240kbps (real world for EDGE, avg is 180kbps; theoretical makes is 284kbps est). Now in todays network consumption and hardware support of H.263 this would be HORRIBLE; but with H.264 the streams bandwidth would automatically be scalled down in data size while still remaining smooth over such a data rate drop on the network.

quite frankly, although EDGE's latency is higher than UMTS > its STILL being developed with Ericsson promising up to 2Mbps rate. IF THIS CAN be achieved WITHOUT bandwidth changes or licensing upgrades required by licensed radio spectrum governing bodies across the world and handsets & PC Express cards can be cheaply manufactured ... I'm looking forward to is.
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Posted: 2007-09-08 06:10:17
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its funny that the support guy actually made an effort to explain "mbps" but still got it wrong.
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Posted: 2007-09-08 14:24:09
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No, the reason you have 5mp is so when you resize the picture you will have greater image quality. Do you think people with 10MP dSLRs view their picture at 10MP? No, they'll view them at maybe 800x600. Look at some picture sites. ( e.g. http://www.picturepunk.com/safari.html )

[ This Message was edited by: Duran on 2007-09-08 16:55 ]
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Posted: 2007-09-08 17:52:28
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If it makes you FEEL any better, I've got a much longer wait here in Canada . However, if it ships by end of September, if I recall initial press release stated that K850i would ship end of 4th qtr. By end of September then their AHEAD of schedule - as long as its NOT rushed and the touch-sensitivity of the GUI keys are accurate 95% of the time then its OK by me.

Anyone know if the keys are Heat Sensitive, Electric sensitive, or Conduction sensitive in some other manner??
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Posted: 2007-09-08 18:25:25
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Of note ... Ericsson hasn't been standing still with their networks division either.

They've got the contract in INDIA for 3G upgrade.


[source]http://justamp.blogspot.com/2007/09/ericsson-to-upgrade-and-expand-bsnls.html[/source]

Also Green base station?
http://justamp.blogspot.com/2[....]ils-innovative-green-base.html

How does lower concrete contribute to lower CO2 emissions? A freakin CONCRETE POLE?! cOMMON!

Either way wondering if BSNL's network will get these towers.

Or are they also getting the K850i??
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Posted: 2007-09-08 19:02:18
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I love the design of SE phones. Being a designer myself this is a very important pre-requisite to me. I have to say, the design of K850 is ugly and the D-pad functionality looks questionable. It looks like SE has gone out of their way and character to emulate Nokia in their sad 7610's adventurous days. As of why, probably the designer is a big *ss kisser to get his design chosen, maybe they're trying to break away from the conventional or maybe they've just hired retards as designers and decision-makers. Harsh as this may sound, I think it's quite justifiable looking at the outcome. And as if the design is not enough to disappoint me, initial reviews have shown that the dedicated Cybershot branded K850 cameraphone can't quite compete with the "jack of all trades, master of none" all-in-one device N95.

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=154541

You would think the convergience of the biggest names in innovative devices manufacturing, Sony and Ericsson would come up with something worthwhile for its flagship products, but its backside just got kicked by Nokia - again. Very disappointing.

[ This Message was edited by: mode on 2007-09-09 04:17 ]
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Posted: 2007-09-08 20:53:43
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@mode

Id rather have this dpad than a joystick. Now I wonder if the softkeys are designed to last only a year instead.
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Posted: 2007-09-08 21:17:44
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Mode you should know that no 1 designer completely designs a product in the cellular or even in the car industry any longer.

Nokia fired theirs just over 7mths ago.

Now there is a HEAD of design that gets ALL the credit; however who knows what the core design looked like.


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Posted: 2007-09-08 21:44:29
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