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No youre wrong, they have higher prices of gas I mean Germany.
its still
But If I compare to socialist era when the price of gas was around 2 CSK its very expensive . Nobody has wanted to accept to communist
any more.Now all ppl in our country should be happy with price of gas.Thats a free market. Or maybe I am wrong.
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Posted: 2004-05-20 21:30:55
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All this raises a good point though. I wonder what the average salaries are in each country in the EU? I think the average salary in the UK is about £20,000 a year (Not sure what is is in Euros), someone correct my figure if it's wrong, or give us a translation into Euros please!
Petrol is a ridiculous amount over here though! Mind you, I think that new cars in other countries are taxed a lot more than the UK, so I gues it evens out in the end!
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Posted: 2004-05-20 21:32:04
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£ 22K is about 35K
@boto - I've spent some time in Belgium and gas was equal and diesel was cheaper in november last year. Cheaper. And still is.
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Posted: 2004-05-20 22:21:07
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0,86/L for the Diesel
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Posted: 2004-05-20 22:28:20
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Jim is that true? Ok ,Atlis is right.Diesel is not important to me couse I drive on gas.
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Posted: 2004-05-20 23:05:00
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Diesel in Belgium was for 0.71 /L... Gas about 0.9
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Posted: 2004-05-20 23:19:46
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Yes it's true, I make 100km everyday and I'm driving on diesel
Here is the
Belgian Q8 site with prices. Check the date/Diesel and it's "incl." ( with taxes )
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Posted: 2004-05-20 23:26:46
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@Atlis
What I do know about Eastern European countries is that they are cheaper for many things when compared to the UK and that their populace's average wage is considerably below that of the UK.
The UK is the most heavily taxed country in Europe. Our taxes include:
Income Tax
National Insurance
Council Tax
Road Tax
Capital Gains Tax
Stamp Duty
VAT
Alcohol Duty
Tobacco Duty
Petrol Duty
Inheritance Tax
Property Tax
Savings Tax
Airfare Tax
Duty on excess goods brought into UK from abroad
There are plans to tax coffins, 'dubbed the 'Death Tax'.
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Posted: 2004-05-21 02:59:00
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@Scot - all these taxes are the same in our country, but that's not the point. When I've been in Belgium, I tried to compare the prices and salaries and I realized that life in the West is approx. 3 times cheaper than in the East... You must see how much do we earn in comparison to you. What is cheaper for you, doesn't mean, that's cheap for us.
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Posted: 2004-05-21 08:14:19
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@Atlis
I fully understand the concept a country being more expensive to live in, relatively speaking, because of low wages, however, I still hold to my point that the UK is a more expensive country to live in than Slovenia (please correct me if that is not where you are from). Although you will no doubt have many of the same taxes as we do, I very much doubt is they are as high as our taxes, even when speaking in relative terms.
If one looks at fuel duty for example, then the UK has a higher percentage of the price of a litre of petrol going to tax than any other country in Europe.
If someone in Britain dies and leaves an estate worth more than a certain amount then half of that will be taken in tax.
An extremely large percentage of the cost of a packet of cigarettes in Britain is tax.
Road tax increases as the size of your car increases, so that anyone with larger cars or more than one car will be paying a considerable sum in tax.
If you are buying a house worth more than a certain amount then you have to pay a tax on the house.
Everyone has to pay a tax to their local council. This tax is set at a certain amount and everyone must pay regardless of how much one earns, so rich and poor alike pay the same amount.
Income tax in Britain increases from 22% to 40% when one earns more than £30,500 a year. If one were to earn £30,501 a year then one would have to pay 40% income tax, although a salary of £30,500 would incur the lesser rate of 22% (which is still far too high in my opinion). This tax is automatically deducted from your wages each month (or however frequently you are paid).
In addition to paying income tax there is also National Insurance, which is used to fun the NHS. This tax is again taken directly from one's wages and the amount is calculated on the amount earned.
We must also consider the fact that Britain has some of the highest prices in Europe (indeed the world) and that although £20,000 maybe the average wage, there are a great deal of people who earn no where near this figure.
Britons would be a great deal richer if we didn't have to support such a large infrastructure, thus the average wage is lower than it would be if we didn't have to pay such high taxes. If we compare Britain and Slovenia then we can see that the British taxpayer is asked to contribute taxes to support, not only, free health care and education systems, but also our armed forces, which have a nuclear capability and global intervention capacity. I am not for one second suggesting that we should not support our armed forces; who do an absolutely superb job and who fully deserve our support, but if our commitments are compared to Slovenia's then I think we can see a very interesting picture. Slovenia has a population of just under two million people, I am not aware of the current health care arrangements in Slovenia, but at any rate providing free health care for two million people is a lot easier and cheaper than providing free health care for sixty million people. Slovenia’s armed forces are in no way intended to fight a global war and without the advanced weaponry and equipment of the British Armed Forces cost considerably less to upkeep.
The point I am making is that Britain, although the fourth richest country in the world, is also one of the most heavily taxed. If you think that the British people are rich in comparison to Slovenians then you would be quite mistaken. We do have a higher standard of living in the UK than you do in Slovenia, but that is partly because we pay so much in taxes to support such a system.
One of the reasons that so many Britons go abroad to live is because other countries are so much cheaper and don't demand such high taxes. You may very well find that now you are in the EU that your taxes start to go up, all those farm subsidies have to be paid for somehow. I for one would like to see less tax and a great deal more sense when spending taxpayer's money.
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