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On 2013-09-17 18:14:49, amirprog wrote:
about the screen protector, REALLY? then what's the point of protecting the screen if it's not scratch resistance which is not less important. sony must find better solution.
on a positive note, recombu's Sony Xperia Z1 video sample (Full HD):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWPW48rh398
the video samples looks really good and sharp to my unprofessional eyes, a bit hard to believe it's a phone camera, isn't it?
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-09-17 17:16 ]
That's actually done to minimize the chances of the glass shattering. And if it does, it's for your safety. It will hold all the glass pieces together to prevent them from cutting you.
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Posted: 2013-09-17 18:27:12
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@XYZ - sure. there are more 1080p screens out there. and what you're saying is fine if we're talking about photos and images. But it's TEXT we're talking about. Where often times, the only colors are black and white. The main point of consideration with text is resolution and sharpness. at 1080p and 440ppi, i'm not sure how text can be unenjoyable to read? I don't really understand the comment at all to be honest. i mean, why was it not enjoyable? he doesn't really say why. perhaps due to viewing angles again? who knows..
@unknown.. what you're saying is correct. I just wanted to add that any high quality screen protector film will do the same thing with the added benefit of being scratch proof at the same time. But, these high quality screen protectors tend to change the color/contrast of the screen slightly and are much more noticeable than the sony shatterproof film.
[ This Message was edited by: moogoo on 2013-09-17 17:33 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-17 18:31:06
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On 2013-09-17 18:14:45, -XYZ wrote:
Goddamn it Sony. Why are you still using crappy displays on your flagship smartphone, when every other device (Laptops, Tablets, phablets etc.) use fantastic IPS displays?
I just don't understand it.
Only saving grace is that some displays appear better than others. GSM Arena's handset seems to have a phenominal display with a 1500+:1 contrast ratio. Why don't ALL of them have that same screen...?
i'm totally with you!
as a tech geek that loves sony products i expect them to be the best of the best in smartphone screens. to me, htc one screen looks overall the best and g2's screen is the second (please don't talk to me about amoled screens, their colors are just unnatural, these bluish greenish tints...). sony needs to put MOST of their focus on the screen for the z2 and the the following flagships. better screen then xperia Z is a nice progress, but the competition doesn't care.
another thing i don't understand about the screen - why aren't sony making the screen also scratch resistant? so what if it's shatter proof? how does that prevent it from being also scratch resistant?
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-09-17 17:37 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-17 18:31:28
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On 2013-09-17 18:27:12, unknownC151A wrote:
On 2013-09-17 18:14:49, amirprog wrote:
about the screen protector, REALLY? then what's the point of protecting the screen if it's not scratch resistance which is not less important. sony must find better solution.
on a positive note, recombu's Sony Xperia Z1 video sample (Full HD):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWPW48rh398
the video samples looks really good and sharp to my unprofessional eyes, a bit hard to believe it's a phone camera, isn't it?
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-09-17 17:16 ]
That's actually done to minimize the chances of the glass shattering. And if it does, it's for your safety. It will hold all the glass pieces together to prevent them from cutting you.
why anticipate shatters? why not just design the phone to be less prone to shattering? ...like creating a rubber lip around the glass so it does not immediately get in contact with the floor once it drops. it's useless using a scratch-resistant glass if it's going to be covered by some scratch-able plastic.
[ This Message was edited by: miromiromi on 2013-09-17 17:35 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-17 18:34:28
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^it's glass. it will shatter given the right conditions and impact. Though, I agree they should make it out of material that is also scratch resistant. Although, the reason I believe it isn't made of scratch resistant material is because there isn't a scratch resistant material out there that can be thin enough to be unobtrusive and also not affect the viewing experience in any way. As I said in a post earlier, even the highest quality 3rd party screen protectors effect the viewing experience in some way.. and they tend to change color over time. Sony is probably using the film as shatter protection but also does not want to interfere with the viewing experience.
@amirprog - the glass itself IS scratch resistant. it's just that the shatterproof film they place on top isn't.
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Posted: 2013-09-17 18:39:46
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On 2013-09-17 18:39:46, moogoo wrote:
^it's glass. it will shatter given the right conditions and impact. Though, I agree they should make it out of material that is also scratch resistant. Although, the reason I believe it isn't made of scratch resistant material is because there isn't a scratch resistant material out there that can be thin enough to be unobtrusive and also not affect the viewing experience in any way. As I said in a post earlier, even the highest quality 3rd party screen protectors effect the viewing experience in some way.. and they tend to change color over time. Sony is probably using the film as shatter protection but also does not want to interfere with the viewing experience.
@amirprog - the glass itself IS scratch resistant. it's just that the shatterproof film they place on top isn't.
ok, got that. that brings a new question, what will happen if one removes sony's screen protector and after that the phone slips to the pavement? will the screen shatter like a cup made from glass? will it be more sensitive to shattering then other smartphones without screen protector?
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-09-17 17:49 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-17 18:47:31
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GUYS, i think the xperia z1 actually uses a PVA or s-PVA panel.
pro's:
high contrast 1500:1 [like the one they got at gsmarena (better black than IPS)] which leads to better pictures with dark tones
bright and saturated colors
good viewing angels (about 160 degrees)
Con's:
colors tend to shift when viewing at extreme angels
not as good as the ips in viewing angels (IPS - 178 degrees)
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Posted: 2013-09-17 18:49:13
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On 2013-09-17 18:49:13, sponse wrote:
GUYS, i think the xperia z1 actually uses a PVA or s-PVA panel.
pro's:
high contrast 1500:1 [like the one they got at gsmarena (better black than IPS)] which leads to better pictures with dark tones
bright and saturated colors
good viewing angels (about 160 degrees)
Con's:
colors tend to shift when viewing at extreme angels
not as good as the ips in viewing angels (IPS - 178 degrees)
i think someone here said that the screen is VA. never heard someone say it's PVA or S-PVA. can anyone confirm?
[ This Message was edited by: amirprog on 2013-09-17 17:52 ]
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Posted: 2013-09-17 18:51:51
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http://www.tbreak.ae/features[....]graphy-lumia-1020-vs-xperia-z1
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Posted: 2013-09-17 18:52:54
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the screen protector is to prevent the screen from shattering. its essentially the same lamination process for _every_ windshield, so that the glass doesnt fly into the car in an accident.. but here for sony devices it allows the screen to take falls, the impact is spread across the face/back so that the 'point' of impact has a greater surface area to disperse said impact energy.
pros/cons:
brilliant adaptation to a common problem
skews screens
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Posted: 2013-09-17 18:54:17
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