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On 2013-08-14 18:07:07, randomuser wrote:
Haha yes VERGE and Engadget as well
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Posted: 2013-08-14 22:42:39
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Seems like 1020 beats 808 camera wise!
http://pocketnow.com/2013/08/[....]ce=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
Can't believe Sony went with ONE LED for Honami camera. Honami may be close to 1020 in daylight but has no chance at night shots. Why does Sony ALWAYS has this urge to shoot themselves in the foot?
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Posted: 2013-08-14 23:46:29
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it's not a camera phone.. it's a phone with a nice camera.
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Posted: 2013-08-14 23:51:41
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On 2013-08-14 23:46:29, Ambivalent_ wrote:
Seems like 1020 beats 808 camera wise!
http://pocketnow.com/2013/08/[....]ce=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
Can't believe Sony went with ONE LED for Honami camera. Honami may be close to 1020 in daylight but has no chance at night shots. Why does Sony ALWAYS has this urge to shoot themselves in the foot?
Unlike Nokia, Sony has a compact camera market that they hold. They would be shooting themselves in the foot more if they failed to garner people using their cameras to their phone products since it's much higher competition. This point won't be valid in the future as the camera market will begin to shrink, but as of now, I think Sony wants maximum potential on people buying all of their products.
We have to think of the other aspect. How is S4 selling so well when 808 is undefeated in terms of camera. People are into usability more than some specs that are off the charts. The Z as you know, already performs "reasonably ok", and if you're not going to blow up your gf's picture full screen, I think it's at an acceptable level (I did not say it's perfect, don't get me wrong). Honami will be even better than the Z. If that's the case, I think Honami's overall experience will trump 1020.
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Posted: 2013-08-15 00:10:19
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On 2013-08-15 00:10:19, unknown13x wrote:
On 2013-08-14 23:46:29, Ambivalent_ wrote:
Seems like 1020 beats 808 camera wise!
http://pocketnow.com/2013/08/[....]ce=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
Can't believe Sony went with ONE LED for Honami camera. Honami may be close to 1020 in daylight but has no chance at night shots. Why does Sony ALWAYS has this urge to shoot themselves in the foot?
Unlike Nokia, Sony has a compact camera market that they hold. They would be shooting themselves in the foot more if they failed to garner people using their cameras to their phone products since it's much higher competition. This point won't be valid in the future as the camera market will begin to shrink, but as of now, I think Sony wants maximum potential on people buying all of their products.
We have to think of the other aspect. How is S4 selling so well when 808 is undefeated in terms of camera. People are into usability more than some specs that are off the charts. The Z as you know, already performs "reasonably ok", and if you're not going to blow up your gf's picture full screen, I think it's at an acceptable level (I did not say it's perfect, don't get me wrong). Honami will be even better than the Z. If that's the case, I think Honami's overall experience will trump 1020.
This, but first and foremost, shooting themselves in the foot???
Really??
Where is the hard evidence that Nokia 1020 sells like crazy?
From what I read here and there, it is another failure in terms of sales...
Now, Sony would be shooting themselves in the foot by getting their flagship into a race to match the needs of a minority.
Nokia and Sony want to differentiate. Nokia made their choices, we see the results in terms of sales everyday.
Sony is making their choices, different choices, and looking at Nokia sales, people should be releived they do not do the same thing as Nokia
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Posted: 2013-08-15 00:26:05
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On 2013-08-15 00:10:19, unknown13x wrote:
Unlike Nokia, Sony has a compact camera market that they hold. They would be shooting themselves in the foot more if they failed to garner people using their cameras to their phone products since it's much higher competition. This point won't be valid in the future as the camera market will begin to shrink, but as of now, I think Sony wants maximum potential on people buying all of their products.
OK, but if Sony won't make a phone with proper camera features someone else will. So not providing Honami with dual LED (at bare minimum) can act as a opportunity cost by losing people that prefer those (camera) features over other non camera related features.
All I'm saying is that I'm real sorry for Honami to come this far camera wise and then went with sub par flash. One LED is literally the worst flash you can get.
I think Honami's overall experience will trump 1020.
That's for sure, no question about the fact that Honami is overall a better device. Day 1 is a no-brainer in my case.
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Posted: 2013-08-15 00:30:27
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Totally agree with you, Ambivalent. One Sony is supposed to be the best all crammed into one device. I think if they were worried about taking sales from their compact cams, they wouldn't be making the external lens accessories.
Oh, and still getting it day 1 haha
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Posted: 2013-08-15 02:13:40
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@randomuser
The internal memory will be 16 GB.
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Posted: 2013-08-15 02:49:12
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On 2013-08-15 00:26:05, Shotokan81 wrote:
This, but first and foremost, shooting themselves in the foot???
Really??
Where is the hard evidence that Nokia 1020 sells like crazy?
From what I read here and there, it is another failure in terms of sales...
Now, Sony would be shooting themselves in the foot by getting their flagship into a race to match the needs of a minority.
Nokia and Sony want to differentiate. Nokia made their choices, we see the results in terms of sales everyday.
Sony is making their choices, different choices, and looking at Nokia sales, people should be releived they do not do the same thing as Nokia
I think you misread my post. I didn't say 1020 is selling like hotcakes. I was referring to how competitive the premium market is (iOS, other Android handsets), it's hard for Sony to put all of its chips on the table. We can't conclude that just making an external lens makes it seem like Sony is shifting their strategy. They are known to make niche products.
Nokia has no fear in stepping onto its own foot because it has none. They have no compact camera market share to be careful of. They can just dump all the latest and greatest into the device to grab the users in the compact camera market.
Sony can try to do the same, but it's risky, like I said, considering how much competition there is. Nokia's WP platform, well...I won't say how well they're doing since you already know

[ This Message was edited by: unknown13x on 2013-08-15 02:00 ]
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Posted: 2013-08-15 03:00:24
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Hi unknown13x is there any surprise left yet for September 4th??
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Posted: 2013-08-15 03:12:37
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