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yea g Posts: > 500

I read somewhere that it comes with the itc-60 (tv out cable) in the box. anyone know if this is true?
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Posted: 2008-08-19 11:56:13
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NightBlade Posts: > 500


On 2008-08-19 11:56:13, yea g wrote:
I read somewhere that it comes with the itc-60 (tv out cable) in the box. anyone know if this is true?


Nope, you have to buy it. Otherwise the phone would get a bit too expensive.
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Posted: 2008-08-19 12:01:00
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marty mcfly Posts: > 500


On 2008-08-19 11:50:16, max_wedge wrote:
You should be chided for having conspiracy theories about SE purposely withholding features just to be mean to their entire customer base



Conspiracy theories abound! I'll go first...the Watermelon did it.

[ This Message was edited by: marty mcfly on 2008-08-19 11:05 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-19 12:02:11
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max_wedge Posts: > 500


On 2008-08-19 11:43:30, xironghostx wrote:

On 2008-08-19 11:40:30, yea g wrote:
If they had vga video that would be cool but the fact is most of the mobiles that can do vga do it badly so youre probably better off resizing the qvga



You mean that n95, n82 and viewty should have been better (quality) if they made them qvga video?

the vga capability of vga recording phones is over-rated in my view. There is almost no realistic advantage in having a vga capable recording device compared to a qvga. The codecs are still far too compressed to be of any real use.

The end user is not silly and they can see that the vga output is crap and only usable on the phone itself - ie you take the video and show your friends and it goes no further than that. In that mode of usage, there is no need for video recording to be any higher res than the handset display res.

This is the reasoning that OEM's use to determine the resolution of video recording.

In a year or two the situation will change. Dedicated video recording handsets will comeout with quality codecs (better quality with less compression) designed to compete with low end camcorders, in much the way camera phones are now competing, and I use the term loosely, with low end digicams. This is when we will see the first Sony Ericsson Handycam (tm)


On 2008-08-19 12:02:11, marty mcfly wrote:

Conspiracy theories abound! I'll go first...the Watermelon did it.


ROFL

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[ This Message was edited by: max_wedge on 2008-08-19 11:12 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-19 12:08:27
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se_dude Posts: > 500

OMG!!

Do the C905 a favour and let it release first. Then we can compare.
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Posted: 2008-08-19 12:53:06
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max_wedge Posts: > 500




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Posted: 2008-08-19 13:02:00
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Hiron Posts: 435

@Muhammad-Oli,

Actually, ARM9 can't even record QVGA smoothly... My K850 that records QVGA get laggy sometimes, especially in first one second duration.

The basic theory for processing power is BitRate, not Resolution...

I can say that ARM-9 can record 320kbps video smoothly. Higher than this, it will get laggy, due to slow processor (fps drop.)

So, this is what I get: C905 can record VGA@30fps on 320kbps smoothly. C905 even can record 1920x1080@30fps on 320kbps smoothly...

But the video is not worthy to play, since the artifact exists due to low bitrate...

To minimizing artifact, the bitrate of VGA video should be higher than 720kbps, in this case .mp4 encoding.

That's likely has been done on some C905 prototypes, they record VGA@30fps but at lower bitrate... SE needs to try everything they can, isn't it? And because there's too many artifact, they decided to lowered the resolution to QVGA. There's many factors regarding on this...


Hiron
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Posted: 2008-08-19 13:13:59
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

I think that's a good analysis. I agree in all respects.

However in regard to K850 video recording, funny because I seem to be able to record qvga on my w910 wthout any lag? However I still agree with your assessment
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Posted: 2008-08-19 14:05:47
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shyam335 Posts: > 500

Dont blame arm,its the fault of se (or their platform).

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Posted: 2008-08-19 14:06:52
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Accel Posts: 11

I have a few questions:

Do you get the card reader in the sales package?

Any ideas what the battery life is gonna be like? compared to, say, the K850i?

& any idea roughly how much it'll cost when it comes out in the U.K? I had read somewhere it was out late August/early September, & the price would be around £400 (though I had hoped it'd be around £350)...

as for the lack of VGA video recording, well, I don't record many vids on my cam-phones, the option would have been nice but I think I can live with QVGA 30fps...
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Posted: 2008-08-19 15:23:47
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