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- Who develop Sony camera app ? Sony Mobile(Sweden) or Sony in Japan ?
Because most apps in Xperias develop at Lund ,Sweden
- Sony Japan know this issue or not ? or they knew but don't care smartphone market ?
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Posted: 2017-09-22 13:26:36
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On 2017-09-22 13:26:36, X350 wrote:
- Who develop Sony camera app ? Sony Mobile(Sweden) or Sony in Japan ?
Because most apps in Xperias develop at Lund ,Sweden
- Sony Japan know this issue or not ? or they knew but don't care smartphone market ?
I guess you're right. They don't really care. If they were care then Xperia would be bad like this.
It's just like they make Xperia just to let the world know that.... there's smartphone from SONY.
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Posted: 2017-09-22 13:43:48
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I remember someone a while ago posted here a link of a chat on weibo.
They were talking about IFA phones.
I translated the chat, but it was very confusing.
All I could understand was one team made software for XZs.
Then another team made of XZP.
Something about someone who worked on A7s.
Any tech site says XZP does better than XZs.
The DxO review, I cant say if in their opinion XZP is better, equal or a bit behind XZ.
The score is better than S6 Edge.
New tests are very confusing.
I have seen many samples of videos from XZP. I could not see any stabilization issue.
Steady Shot has always been great.
Sony has always got highest score of AF.
XZ had 95. U11 is the only non-Sony to reach 95.
Now u11 has 90, Pixel 98.
XZP has 88 I guess.
GSMArena did XZP x U11 x i7+.
XZP was the winner.
Of course a photographer knows much more than someone that is not a photographer.
But I doubt XZP is not better than XZ or Z5.
BTW, DxO just gave 92 to iphone8 and 94 to iphone8+.
I doubt they are that good.
Now that they xheck Bokeh and zoom, phones with dual cam will have much higher score than single cam phones.
[ This Message was edited by: LumberjackX on 2017-09-22 13:51 ]
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Posted: 2017-09-22 14:07:20
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https://web.archive.org/web/2[....]ttps://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles
The link is for the older scores. Keep this link and see how the rankings change. The way they made this new system that gave the iPhone 8 over 90 will reshuffle many devices and for sure you will see good devices drop suddenly while junk devices move up. X Performance got 88 with S7 Edge and S8 but I can guarantee iPhone 7 Plus will move ahead of these. S8 will get 84 max.
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Posted: 2017-09-22 15:16:46
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@bad
Iphone 7 was 86, now is 85.
Iphone 7+ is 88, was not tested before.
This new method, no matter if a phone has low score of AF, color or noise..
Higher score for bokeh and zoom with give advantage.
" For a traditional single-camera design, the Sony Xperia XZ Premium does a good job of capturing both still images and video, but without breaking any new ground or seriously challenging our benchmark leaders. Its poor performance on our new Zoom and Bokeh tests pulls down its overall score. "
http://m.gsmarena.com/iphone7[....]emium_shootout-review-1625.php
Many good things were said about XZP. Even the auto mode.
Most situations it was ahead of u11.
I understand the distortion story, some units are fine.
Some units are very bad.
But shots do not look worse than any Samsung or iphone.
[ This Message was edited by: LumberjackX on 2017-09-22 15:57 ]
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Posted: 2017-09-22 15:57:28
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it's almost impossible to challange dual-camera setup for new flagship devices with dxomark's new ranking system.
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Posted: 2017-09-23 07:36:03
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There's XZ1 launch event last Tuesday in Thailand and many of my friend have discuss with SONY staff and the staff told my friend there will be Xperia with Dual Camera next year.
Not sure how SONY will use Dual Camera for... hope at least one of them will have OIS or Optical Zoom.
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Posted: 2017-09-23 12:53:05
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They should go 20MP + 1" sensor + 4x optical zoom.
Move cam to where nfc is on Z phones.
Vertical sensor bar beside it...
Any info on sales?
If things are going as planned...
Q1 was 10% better than last year Q1.
[ This Message was edited by: LumberjackX on 2017-09-23 21:15 ]
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Posted: 2017-09-23 14:49:52
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On 2017-09-23 14:49:52, LumberjackX wrote:
They should go 20MP + 1" sensor + 4x optical zoom.
Move cam to where nfc is on Z phones.
Vertical sensor bar beside it...
Any info on sales?
If things are going as planned...
Q1 was 10% better than last year Q1.
[ This Message was edited by: LumberjackX on 2017-09-23 21:15 ]
20MP and 1 inch sensor and 4x optical zoom = RX100. This will not fit inside a smartphone sized device.
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Posted: 2017-09-23 23:57:20
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Double the thickness. May be enough.
I dont mind something thick like feature phone.
I still have W395 Walkman.
Awesome phone.
Not sure if it is dead or just need new battery.
Next MWC is 10 years of X1.
Something extreme is necessary.
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Posted: 2017-09-24 04:39:11
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