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On 2008-08-20 05:05:29, max_wedge wrote:
Yes but look how popular youtube video is and it's only qvga. And no better quality than most qvga devices.
YouTube is showing videos at 480*360 resolution...
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Posted: 2008-08-20 19:34:44
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Why you chaps keep on talking about the mighty n95 8gig in this tread? N95 +latest firmware + virtual dub = acceptable quality. Any video with a initial resolution and overall quality less then the above, is a gimmick. To talk about SE,Sagem,Alcatel etc etc, and video rec QUALITY, is like talking about the Olympic games been held on the moon ! In future - yes it will happen. With today's technology the answer is no
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Posted: 2008-08-20 22:46:26
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I feel almost proud of this VGA anger I have brought up again
Max, you put up a very well thought out argument, I commend it. But you really are missing the whole point as to why I mentioned this a few pages back.
We all know VGA isn't brilliant on Mobiles, but people would rather sit and watch a poor VGA than a tiny little QVGA video any day. That's all I was saying! No one is looking for, or expecting a high quality, faultless video capture. Just a bigger, clearer one!
Have a look at the sample INNOV8 videos on Mobile Reviews site. You can blow them up full screen, and the quality is about what you'd get from a VHS camcorder 15 years ago. What's wrong with that? It's full screen and perfectly acceptable. It'll never win any awards, but I'd rather capture moments to remember with that quality than a little QVGA video the size of postage stamp!
VGA should be standard quality on a flagship cameraphone in 2008. Telling us it's not cost effective, or the platform doesn't support it just shows how far behind everyone else
really are.
That's just how I feel and I know, how a lot of others feel too.
[ This Message was edited by: marty mcfly on 2008-08-20 23:19 ]
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Posted: 2008-08-20 23:35:53
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Anyone hear of any new rumors regarding the release date? I hope its coming next month?
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Posted: 2008-08-21 01:47:18
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Voda say October
uk
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Posted: 2008-08-21 01:50:18
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Me no wants to wait till october...
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Posted: 2008-08-21 02:21:15
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On 2008-08-20 23:35:53, marty mcfly wrote:
I feel almost proud of this VGA anger I have brought up again
Max, you put up a very well thought out argument, I commend it. But you really are missing the whole point as to why I mentioned this a few pages back.
We all know VGA isn't brilliant on Mobiles, but people would rather sit and watch a poor VGA than a tiny little QVGA video any day. That's all I was saying! No one is looking for, or expecting a high quality, faultless video capture. Just a bigger, clearer one!
Have a look at the sample INNOV8 videos on Mobile Reviews site. You can blow them up full screen, and the quality is about what you'd get from a VHS camcorder 15 years ago. What's wrong with that? It's full screen and perfectly acceptable. It'll never win any awards, but I'd rather capture moments to remember with that quality than a little QVGA video the size of postage stamp!
VGA should be standard quality on a flagship cameraphone in 2008. Telling us it's not cost effective, or the platform doesn't support it just shows how far behind everyone else
really are.
That's just how I feel and I know, how a lot of others feel too.
[ This Message was edited by: marty mcfly on 2008-08-20 23:19 ]
I actually agree with you. In every respect. HOWEVER, the key point is that you , I and all many of our friends are in the techno junkie dead zone. I feel it's incorrect to assume that the general market really cares that much about the size of the video as long is it's viewable on the phone itself.
As I have said, I think the situation is changing fast, as phone technology has a habit of doing, but for a little while yet lack of VGA video won't have lasting affect on SE sales. Of all the things an average person buys a phone for, VGA recording is one of the last things they think about. Most punters won't even ask what video recording a phone has before they purchase.
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Posted: 2008-08-21 02:24:33
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On 2008-08-21 02:24:33, max_wedge wrote:
I actually agree with you. In every respect. HOWEVER, the key point is that you , I and all many of our friends are in the techno junkie dead zone. I feel it's incorrect to assume that the general market really cares that much about the size of the video as long is it's viewable on the phone itself.
As I have said, I think the situation is changing fast, as phone technology has a habit of doing, but for a little while yet lack of VGA video won't have lasting affect on SE sales. Of all the things an average person buys a phone for, VGA recording is one of the last things they think about. Most punters won't even ask what video recording a phone has before they purchase.
You will be surprised how many may have bought the N95 based on the video record factor alone given the way Nokia advertise the phone. And how about Viewty/Secret with its VGA or 120fps capability which is prominently advertised. This cutting edge tech as far as phone is concerned and the manufacturers make sure the buyers know about it.
Even if buyers did not start out looking for video rec in a phone but if everything else being equal, the VGA video recording factor will definitely give a reason for buyers to bite.
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I dont know about you but since I got my N95/N82, I have been using the video rec extensively (even more than the camera). It is the first time video taken by a phone is good enough for viewing on TV. It may not match the latest videocam HDTV quality but it is definitely a step up from the defunct VHS videocam quality.
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Posted: 2008-08-21 04:16:28
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On 2008-08-21 04:16:28, mib1800 wrote:
You will be surprised how many may have bought the N95 based on the video record factor alone given the way Nokia advertise the phone. And how about Viewty/Secret with its VGA or 120fps capability which is prominently advertised. This cutting edge tech as far as phone is concerned and the manufacturers make sure the buyers know about it.
Even if buyers did not start out looking for video rec in a phone but if everything else being equal, the VGA video recording factor will definitely give a reason for buyers to bite.
Yeah I can agree with that. On the TV and newspaper ads we had here for the N95, they said it has "near DVD quality video recording" which is probably a load of crap (I haven't tried it so I don't know), but I'd say that's a pretty nice incentive for the unknowing consumer to buy it!
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Posted: 2008-08-21 04:21:15
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It is utter crap and a lie. What they mean is it has close to the same resolution as DVD, (DVD PAL res = 720x576) but as to quality that's a complete bunk.
N95 doesn't even use DIVX, let alone full HD quality video.
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Posted: 2008-08-21 05:35:11
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