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well if it works you i think thats fine. i struggle to get my head round the two differences, but i for one respect the fact that you have your beliefs and also the fact that you didnt shy away from the questions posed as some many religious people often do. its also nice that the thread has got back on track and a little more respect is been shown.
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Posted: 2005-10-18 16:35:13
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Only if there were more understanding people like you on this thread
. It's not easy when people fire questions from all directions but when you have a guide such as the Glorious Quran to relate from it becomes very easy to answer the questions posed.
I will not shy away because i believe very strongly in my faith and i pray that i stay in the same way till the day the angel of death comes to take away my soul. (which is not far away).
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Posted: 2005-10-18 16:43:34
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@PK
What do you believe in more your God or the Quran?
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Posted: 2005-10-18 21:28:28
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in islam (from what i remember of my studies of it) the quran is the word of god dictated to the prophet and un altered.
as the word of god it is to be up held and believed however in islam nothing or noone can be praised higher than allah hence no pictures or statues exists as to worship them would be to detract from allah himself.
i would say no muslim should put anything above god and the quran would be followed but only god worshiped
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Posted: 2005-10-18 21:51:34
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On 2005-10-18 15:40:24, slattery69 wrote:
i wont aim this just at peter as it seems a common theme though the major religions in the world.
do you feel comfortable believing in a so called all loving all knowing all powerful god.
that on a whim will strike down innocent people using weather, forms of cancer (which arent self inflicted) and other diseases ie geneic flaws- an indication of bad design by the creator
i dont see how the 2 can marry together. so how as religious people do you manage to over come these discrepancies is it literaly that you just have enough faith to ignore them?
I think that's one of the early things that turned me away from any organised religion. I don't attribute absolutely everything being in control of some superior minded puppet master out there.
To me there would have be to a balance, whilst someone may lay waste and sunder people, land etc, you'd also think that any superior minded being would also dish out the opposite too. But there is absolutely no signs of that. Unless "letting" us live is that reward in which case just strike down the world now because whats the point in being some bullys play toy?
I think the other thing that turned me off about the idea was the fact all that seemed to be offered was the hope I would go on after death. As much as people can theorise and hope texts are right for religion (s'why its called faith
) and just guess if they aren't religous, Whatever happens after death happens. We'll find out then. Until then, it sounds just like insurance. "You may need it in the future, so its best to get it now eh?"
The main staplehold of religion is faith, faith in what is written and that what is written and taught to you is RIGHT. Anything that contradicts that is wrong, and thus your faith will hold and perservere you through any storm or test that god see's fit to throw at you. Myself, I couldn't resolve to believe that at all.
Course I wouldn't be opposed to having a small group of people worship me
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Posted: 2005-10-18 22:55:58
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what does the quran say about converting people or refusing other peoples religions ey?
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Posted: 2005-10-18 23:07:29
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On 2005-10-18 21:28:28, joebmc wrote:
@PK
What do you believe in more your God or the Quran?
The Quran is Gods word, so God is first always.
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Posted: 2005-10-18 23:14:47
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as I said, we do not refuse all religions.
Of course each religion will say they are the best and if you are true to your faith you will believe in it above all else.
In Islam we believe in all other religions by God. Christianity, Judiasm and so on.
We just dont act similarly.
@slattery,
My mum is Christian my dad is Muslim they respect each others faiths and do not interfere.
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Posted: 2005-10-19 02:08:25
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On 2005-10-18 22:55:58, Gigs wrote:
To me there would have be to a balance, whilst someone may lay waste and sunder people, land etc, you'd also think that any superior minded being would also dish out the opposite too. But there is absolutely no signs of that. Unless "letting" us live is that reward in which case just strike down the world now because whats the point in being some bullys play toy?
but surely living - and i mean
really living - is the balance? too few people appreciate the blessings of life. the opposite of wholesale death and suffering is the birth of a child, the kindness of strangers, spending time with friends and family, the look on someone's face when you help them out in time of need. nobody appreciates the world any more. there are sweeping landscapes, burning sunsets and glorious coastlines to be enjoyed. even the touch of wind on your cheek and the changing seasons are things to be revelled in.
far too many people, myself included, take the simple fact of being for granted. it becomes a chore. the struggles we face are not an obstacle to life, they ARE life. they are how we learn, grow and evolve to be better - both as individuals and as a race.
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Posted: 2005-10-19 02:18:07
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Verse 27 from Chapter 31 states:
And if all the trees on earth were pens and the ocean were ink, with seven oceans behind it to add to its supply, yet would not the words of Allah be exhausted in the writing: for Allah is Exalted in Power, full of Wisdom.
He is the Greatest, He is the most powerful, To him belong all the beautiful names, He is the Sustainer, He is the Master, All praise is for Allah and to him is our final return.
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Posted: 2005-10-19 07:37:28
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