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dcuk Posts: 121

Hi Mysh,

I love the idea of your software but as yet have not been able to get results, please see example picture, every video I have tried has been grabbed from a DTV card (720x576 pal aspect is 1.25) and have tried all built in crop options which leads me onto point two!



Please can you add manual cropping features into your program? Without your software I always use virtualdubmod first to do this before I encode and understand it requires more calculations in relation to PAR and DAR


I think the problem my be your software is giving the information that my videos (720x576 pal) are aspect 1.33 when they are actually 1.25


[ This Message was edited by: dcuk on 2006-08-19 20:46 ]
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Posted: 2006-08-19 21:42:14
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jj03 Posts: > 500

anybody running xp pro?
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Posted: 2006-08-19 21:52:42
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xan K Posts: > 500

I'm running XP Pro with .Net framework 1.1 SP1 and 2.0 and everything is working fine. dunno what could be wrong with you.
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Posted: 2006-08-19 22:49:21
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jj03 Posts: > 500

did you just install 1.1 from microsoft and that was it?
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Posted: 2006-08-19 22:52:34
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jj03 Posts: > 500

i don't have service pack1..just service pack 2...anybody know if its necessary to install service pack 1? just tried, but it stated that the service pack i have is newer than the one i was downloading and gave an error..
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Posted: 2006-08-19 23:13:02
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xan K Posts: > 500

when you say Service Pack 2, you mean Windows XP SP2 or .Net 1.1 SP2, because I've never heard of any SP2 for .Net framework. Now there are 1.1 and 2.0 frameworks, they're not the same and version 2.0 won't replace version 1.1, they're both installed along each other.
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Posted: 2006-08-20 06:34:10
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mysh Posts: 176

Quote:
On 2006-08-19 21:42:14, dcuk wrote:
Hi Mysh,

I love the idea of your software but as yet have not been able to get results, please see example picture, every video I have tried has been grabbed from a DTV card (720x576 pal aspect is 1.25) and have tried all built in crop options which leads me onto point two!



Please can you add manual cropping features into your program? Without your software I always use virtualdubmod first to do this before I encode and understand it requires more calculations in relation to PAR and DAR


I think the problem my be your software is giving the information that my videos (720x576 pal) are aspect 1.33 when they are actually 1.25


[ This Message was edited by: dcuk on 2006-08-19 20:46 ]



apologies to mobile readers for the large quote.

dcuk, the problem in that screenshot looks to be a colourspace error.

What i need from you is the file format (eg. avi) and the codecs in use. This information is in the lastrun.log file after you try to convert the video.

Could you email me the lastrun.log for that video to m3bugs at gmail.com, thanks.

As you're used to using virtuladubmod, it'd be great if you create a short clip of the video and email me that too. Set the video and audio streams to "direct stream copy", use the edit - delete option to remove most of the video, leaving a short 30 second clip, then save as avi. Email me the short clip with the lastrun.log, cheers!

about the PAR, 1.25 is close enough to 1.33 that you won't see any aspect distortion from m3 treating the video as 1.33. I am planning to add manual cropping adjustment at some point, but m3 is currently alpha software and i have other larger features to work on first.

seriously, the 1.25 aspect isn't a significant problem, you won't be able to tell any real difference between 1.33 and 1.25, they're too close. Aspect is only a problem when it's a large difference like 1.33 and 1.77 (16:9 widescreen). so manual cropping at this point isn't an urgent feature, but it will be included later.
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Posted: 2006-08-20 09:56:07
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mysh Posts: 176

other replies...

pepi, could you email me the lastrun.log for the mov file that didn't output a video? Thank you.

jj03, you need the .net 2.0 framework, you can get it here...

http://www.microsoft.com/down[....]DD-AAB15C5E04F5&displaylang=en

about 2 pass encoding for mobile devices....

traditionally 2 pass is used to improve video quality, it does this by assigning more bitrate to difficult parts of a video, and less bitrate to easy parts.

however mobile phones have quite low maximum bitrates, and normal 2 pass encoding would make the video unwatchable, because the phone can't handle the extra bitrate that would be used on difficult scenes in the video.

so 2-pass in m3 is designed not to improve video quality (because it's simply not possible to do that on a phone using higher bitrates, as mentioned above). Instead 2-pass can be used to reduce the video file size, by maintaining maximum possible bitrate on difficult scenes (just like 1 pass), but making use of the lower bitrate on easy scenes in the video. Essentially you get the same quality as 1 pass for difficult scenes in the video, and the benefits of 2 pass to save file size on the easy scenes in the video.

Someone asked me for the feature to be included in m3, so i added it, but i don't personally think a 10-20% saving in filesize is worth the 70% longer conversion time that 2-pass creates.

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Posted: 2006-08-20 10:04:29
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jj03 Posts: > 500

mysh, i installed .net framework 2 previously, but it gave me an error..plus, it says windows xp in the system requirements, not xp pro...
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Posted: 2006-08-20 14:02:02
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jj03 Posts: > 500

ok..everything sorted..thanks to everyone who helped. much appreciated.
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Posted: 2006-08-20 14:30:53
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