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So, I just realised that the LG Arena is not actually influenced by the iPhone at all, it is actually a direct improvement of the LG Prada, which was in fact released before the iPhone.

Boinng's comments that the Arena would not have existed without the iPhone are total BS, the Arena may be similar to the iPhone, but the iPhone was the model actually copying LG's Prada, and the Arena was just a natural step up from their previous model.

I really wonder why the iPhone is never noticed or commented on as a LG Prada clone / rip off then?

http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/12322/



Very old news, but as I were never previously interested in LG, I never noticed.

So the Arena is just a successor to LG's own previous models, from which the iPhone actually copied. Yet its funny how the iPhone reaches 'revolutionary' status, just because it was advertised as such.


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Posted: 2009-04-06 02:50:01
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Dream on... How many iPhone owners seriously considered buying a Prada? Not this one.
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Posted: 2009-04-06 03:50:48
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Yes the prada was due to come out anyway as it was announced before but are you seriously telling me the Arena is not influenced by iphone? The UI layout is a total copy.

Why are you constantly trying to prove your phone is superior to iphone? Who are you trying to convince?

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Posted: 2009-04-06 10:21:23
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Yeah - probably not worth pointing out to most people, but for the avoidance of doubt, that article was posted in January 2007 before either the Prada or the iPhone had actually been released, and nobody had actually compared the form and function of either. Basically the story here is "the iPhone is not the first touchscreen phone shocker!" which in retrospect is a very silly and obvious thing to be pointing out, as clearly the Prada isn't the first touchscreen either - our very own SE were producing the P800 in 2002 after all, and the R380 before that (both of which could be operated entirely by touch) and if you want to get really pedantic it was actually IBM who did it first many years before anyone else - http://cdecas.free.fr/computers/pocket/simon.php

That LG and Apple were both working on touchscreen phones at the same time is not surprising. That the iPhone and the Prada were worlds apart upon their eventual release is well known. The true innovations in the original iPhone were after all the UI, the mutitouch functions, and the groundbreaking mobile browsing, none of which were present in the Prada and all of which LG have subsequently tried to clumsily ape in the form of the Arena.

The idea that Apple saw the Prada phone in September 2006 (when pictures of its design were first released) and immediately thought "wowzers, we must copy that" before knocking up the iPhone in time for its January 2007 reveal is, well, about as silly as most of Bhavv's other contributions here.

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Posted: 2009-04-06 11:26:21
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Wow, this is still going on! Amazing!
People who choose the Iphone (okay, not all of them) do so knowing it lacks your 5mp A/F camera, video recorder, FM radio, etc, but do so because it does what it does best.

I'm no apple fan nor do I own or intend to own one until it becomes relevant to my main needs but I agree and admit that it really is the most relevant phone currently. Apple have done an excellent job in marketing it and are continuously giving it attention in the way of RELEVANT upgrades (OS 3).

Like it was mentioned before, the fact that its name carries such weight is due to brilliant and clever marketing. If you don't like the Iphone respect those that do because it fulfills their needs.

Brilliant multitouch technology which resulted in a brilliant touch UI, excellent music player, really good build quality and it works like it should. Now, how many manufturers can claim that?

The day will come when apple launches THE IPHONE and then all this talk about it lacks basic features will fall away. That's probably the day I will buy the Iphone.
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Posted: 2009-04-06 14:24:19
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Intriguingly, the forthcoming iPhone OS3 apparently includes tools for video editing and uploading to Youtube etc http://www.tuaw.com/2009/04/0[....]o-include-video-editing-tools/

Since these are "unnannounced" features and would be useless on the current video-recording-less iPhone and iPhone 3G, it's pretty much confirmation that the next version of the hardware (likely to hit the shops in June at the same time as OS3's release for all the existing handsets) will have an updated, reasonably decent camera capable of video.

So that's copy and paste, MMS, SMS forwarding, internet tethering, stereo bluetooth, the option of turn-by-turn satnav and other more advanced apps, and (for the new models) a better camera with video recording, all wrapped up in that UI and OS that's still years ahead of most of the competition.

Way to stay relevant, iPhone

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Posted: 2009-04-06 14:42:31
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Im not trying to convince anyone, but this thread is supposed to be trying to prove the iPhone is relevant, when all it ever has been is a clone of other phones, lacking basic features for over 18 months (I would consider it obviously irrelevant all the time prior to OS3, which by the way still isnt released yet), yet it is still considered relevant and better than other handsets by some.

I do firmly believe that LG were completely capable of designing their new UI entirely on their own. They already had touch screens before Apple did, their obvious progression was to improve upon their own models.

Just because two things are similar does not mean that one copied or was influenced by the other, but people just want to keep on finding more ways and excuses to make the iPhone more relevant and better in their opinion.

I dont need to do anything to prove that the Arena is a better phone, the review posted before with the comment 'wipes the floor with the iPhone' pretty much sums it up.

I dont believe that the UI has ever determined one piece of hardware as any better or more relevant than another. Nor does OS3 make the iPhone more relevant, all the update will do is give the iPhone the simple basic features that just about every other phone already has, what a big freaking deal!

If anyone thinks that having to wait 18 months to get bluetooth, copy paste, MMS, and video capture functioning on a phone makes it more relevant or better then other phones, they are deluded.

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Posted: 2009-04-06 17:28:26
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Is that the one that calls the Arena a smartphone (which it isn't, by any measure) but then goes on to point out that "the iPhone didn't become an all-conquering champion because of its feature set. It managed to make smart-phone features that have been around for years, like the mobile Web and touchscreen, work effortlessly -- and that's where the Arena falls down."

Here's the conclusion of that review in full:



I'll keep saying this - I've nothing against the Arena - but a serious competitor to the iPhone it ain't, and everyone can see that but you Bhavv.

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Posted: 2009-04-06 17:32:54
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[quote]I'll keep saying this - I've nothing against the Arena - but a serious competitor to the iPhone it ain't, and everyone can see that but you Bhavv.[quote]

It might not be to you, but just wait and see how many units the Arena and upcoming GD900 sell.

The review does state in its conclusion 'If you are looking for an iPhone with better features, then this could be the Phone for you'.

I think that everyone with basic common sense can see that the Arena is a competitor to the iPhone, whether or not you want to accept it, many many people are going to be buying the Arena instead of an iPhone.
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Posted: 2009-04-06 18:15:48
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imho anyone with basic common sense would see the Pre as a true competitor to the iPhone
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Posted: 2009-04-06 19:30:24
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