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It's ridiculous to suggest that Apple didn't test their phones properly, it's a case of a few low life losers who have deliberately bent the phone to make a headline same way a someone putting a piece of paper into the gap of a Note 4. I guess you can't put your iPhone in your pocket nor can you put your Note 4 on your work desk as a post-it may get stuck in the gap. At my local Sammy shop I managed to bend the Note 4 a long way but I stopped because I'm not a vandal.
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Posted: 2014-10-02 20:28:35
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So you actually went out and bent a unit? Hmmm....
With all the bendgate drama I have actually become more cautious, although I have had my S4 for about 1.5years now and have sat on it many times (I'm 80kg/12.59stone/175lb though), dropped it hundreds of times etc... After bendgate I am a bit more careful and I certainly won't be trying to bend any phones I come across.
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Posted: 2014-10-02 20:53:01
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@Tsepz_GP
I didn't go out just to bend it, my point is that every phone is flexible no matter what. The guy at the shop bent the Note 4 more than I did so much that the screen colour started to change. My Bro got an iPhone 6 from work and it's very solid but like everything else it can be bent if you really want to do so. Things that I consider to be important and genuine are: Z1 Compact LED flash bleed, Moto 360 mega lag, Moto 360 battery life, everything about Windows 8, 4K recording heating issue and so on. These things are reported by many people like the iPhone death grip that Apple acknowledged and changed the design because it was a legitimate issue. Bendgate is a troll issue.
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Posted: 2014-10-02 22:36:16
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On 2014-10-02 18:42:18, AbuBasim wrote:
Actually the order way around according to
Consumer Report's test. They found the 6+ to tolerate more bending. Of the phones tested, the weakest was the HTC One M8, followed by the iPhone 6.
I dont actually give much credit into that consumer report test... its correct that they tested the phone for bending, and got the results that they got, but the LOCATION on where the load was applied is questionable.
The load was put exactly in the middle of the phone, which rarely happens in real life. If you look at the pictures posted all over...the weak point of the phone is that part near the volume button, a little higher up, and not in the middle.
As better explained here:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/a[....]-6-plus-bender-are-both-right/
If still you dont believe, just read around the net (other forums and blogs), you'll notice just how CR is being discredited and laughed at... for defending something so blatantly obvious.
cheers!
[ This Message was edited by: difenbaker on 2014-10-03 01:27 ]
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Posted: 2014-10-03 02:06:25
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anyway, back to topic...
Why Samsung’s Galaxy Note 4 Will Win the Phablet War
http://www.fool.com/investing[....]4-will-win-the-phablet-wa.aspx
cheers!
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Posted: 2014-10-03 02:10:37
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We will see. I think they will win in the end because most iPhone owners will opt for the 4.7 inch version.
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Posted: 2014-10-03 05:06:56
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On 2014-10-03 02:06:25, difenbaker wrote:
I dont actually give much credit into that consumer report test... its correct that they tested the phone for bending, and got the results that they got, but the LOCATION on where the load was applied is questionable.
The load was put exactly in the middle of the phone, which rarely happens in real life. If you look at the pictures posted all over...the weak point of the phone is that part near the volume button, a little higher up, and not in the middle.
So this happened to be where the HTC One M8 was the weakest? No one seems to care about HTC making phones that bend easily? The One M8 isn't the first one.
The Evo 4G LTE had the same bending problem. There could of course be the fact that Android phone makers have a financial interest in seeing iPhones discredited! I'm not saying that iPhone 6/6+ does not have a bending problem. I'm just wondering why only they receive focus for having it.
Back to topic: anyone having second thoughts about buying the Note 4 after seeing the screen gap build quality problem?
I owned the first Note and the Note II and were very happy with these. Especially the first Note which maintained UMS mode even after receiving the JB update. With the Note 3 and onwards, it seems Samsung is throwing in gimmick features trying to keep people interested in the Note line.
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Posted: 2014-10-03 05:34:26
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On 2014-10-03 05:06:56, skblakee wrote:
We will see. I think they will win in the end because most iPhone owners will opt for the 4.7 inch version.
yup, too early to tell just yet, that was an ambitious article to say the least.
On 2014-10-03 05:34:26, AbuBasim wrote:
So this happened to be where the HTC One M8 was the weakest? No one seems to care about HTC making phones that bend easily? The One M8 isn't the first one.
The Evo 4G LTE had the same bending problem. There could of course be the fact that Android phone makers have a financial interest in seeing iPhones discredited! I'm not saying that iPhone 6/6+ does not have a bending problem. I'm just wondering why only they receive focus for having it.
The answer to that are many and varied.
But let me think of some...
- HTC does not have or is even near the market share that Apple (or Samsung) has, so there's less attention given to them.
- Apple has a history of denying defects of their products. Antennagate, Scuffgate, Mapsgate, Sirigate,... all became media circuses solely because Apple refuses to admit that they made a mistake. Not admitting it is one thing, but they actually made it worse when they tried to put the blame on the end-user... the phrase "you're holding it wrong!" ring any bells? No wonder bendgate is turning into one as well.
- Next are the apple fans... most are so smug, thinking that Apple is magic, that it can do no wrong. Which maybe is the sole reason they can justify the iphone's higher-than-usual prices. It doesn't matter if they're paying for a phone with less features than the competition... all that matters is that they have an "apple device" with them. Remember the phrase "It just works" or the phrase " Apple might be late in something but when they do it, they do it well." So when something like this gets outed... all hell breaks loose, hehehe
I am reminded of this article;
http://www.techradar.com/news[....]le-s-magic-has-run-out-1267040
- the bendgate fiasco has gotten so big that Samsung is now doing 'bending tests' on their Note 4 (see the link I posted in the last page). If apple had jjust admitted that they used weak aluminum... or that they made it so thin that it bends... then all this probably wouldn't happen.
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anyway, back to topic..
Back to topic: anyone having second thoughts about buying the Note 4 after seeing the screen gap build quality problem?
I owned the first Note and the Note II and were very happy with these. Especially the first Note which maintained UMS mode even after receiving the JB update. With the Note 3 and onwards, it seems Samsung is throwing in gimmick features trying to keep people interested in the Note line.
Actually I did which is why I cancelled my online order and decided to just buy it personally. Coincidentally, most Note 3 owners that I've talked to... really isn't that excited actually, to get the Note 4. It seems that there's not enough "added" that makes it worth it for them. Those coming from the note 1 & 2 however are very eager. Im using a Note 3 myself, and am still very happy with it, but the faster processor, camera, screen of the 4 seems hard to beat.
cheers!
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Posted: 2014-10-03 07:35:04
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I do agree with that and it applies not only to iOS. I bought the late 2013 MacBook Pro a few months ago and find MacOS becoming more and more riddled with bugs. Frequent random reboots. Features not working properly.
The experience is the opposite of what I had with my late 2009 iMac - there everything did actually just work with MacOS 10.6. As soon as 10.7 came out, things slowly started turning sour with WiFi glitches and features like iSync removed.
It seems The Onion were not far from the truth:
http://www.theonion.com/artic[....]ok-im-thinking-printers,21207/
And this is my last off-topic post in this thread. Apologies to everyone.
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Posted: 2014-10-03 08:12:02
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difenbaker
I am not sure what sirigate is but Apple most definitely acknowledged map gate (they actually made sugestions of what other map apps to use instead)
......sorry about the off topic
[ This Message was edited by: aussieland1 on 2014-10-03 07:24 ]
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Posted: 2014-10-03 08:23:30
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