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As I know Atliscomes from Slovakia :-D
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Posted: 2004-05-21 13:31:36
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@boto - thank you...
@scot - first think, which comes to my mind after reading your really interesting economical analysis is that you must be scotish... ;-) unfortunately I don't have detailed information about UK and Slovakia, but I should try to find out some info and compare this to states. And one detail - you have to pay your Royal family, and this costs painful fortune... Armed Forces - your Tornados are incredibely expensive to keep and you are about to buy new Eurofighters and sb must pay...
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Posted: 2004-05-21 14:34:42
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Who cares about who pays more taxes, we all do and it sucks
Btw here is my receipt for the Diesel to prove the real prices now, as you can see it's from today at 10h and I made a mistake it's not 0,86 it's 0,83
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Posted: 2004-05-21 15:27:58
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@Atlis
The Royal Family cost the taxpayer approximately £35 million per year, but they generate hundreds of millions in tourism for Britain and promote British businesses abroad, generating more money for Britain. The cost therefore is extremely small in comparison.
Your point about the cost of military upkeep is in agreement with my earlier comments.
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Posted: 2004-05-21 15:32:00
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Upkeeping d Armed Forces, d Navy costs a huge sum everywhere i reckon. Cold war started again thx 2 some foolish guys. Anyway, practising peace pays far better than preparing 4 war.
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Posted: 2004-05-21 16:00:42
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@scot - 100% right, but doesn't matter how hard you will try to persuade me, I will still say that life in the W. is cheaper and prices in the E. are unadequate to our salaries. Btw-what's your job?
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Posted: 2004-05-21 16:13:43
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The way i see it about the Eu is that people will always believe what your country and media tell you, generally this will mean all the negatives.
There is a rise in the BNP party in the UK because of scare mongering about the new influx of migrants to the country. Anyway i believe that as Great Britian once held three quarters of the world we can hardly complain!
It's gonna take time even the scots don't like us.
Anyway that's enough from me welcome one and all.
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Posted: 2004-05-21 16:15:26
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Atlis, if u asked me, im an English teacher in Hungary. I could also complain about my salary, but dats da last thing i would do. I see da way of progress in my life.
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Posted: 2004-05-21 16:25:33
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Kinc - you are not right about me and media - I've spent sometime abroad and I know what I'm talking about... @Gezza - cool mate!
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Posted: 2004-05-21 16:37:26
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@Atlis
You seem to be taking an extremely naive view of life in Western Europe. You may look at the UK and see higher wages than in Slovakia and a better standard of living, but you are only seeing a part of the overall picture. You are also failing to take into account nations such as Norway or Ireland where again the level of tax is extremely high and goods and services are highly expensive.
Many people in Britain earn no where near the £20,000 average salary that has been quoted and most of the population have debt in one form or another. The reason that many people in Britain are able to afford two cars and holidays abroad is because they borrow money from banks to maintain their lifestyles. It is an unfortunate situation that many people are unable to avoid because a very large part of their salary is eaten up by tax. Even after they have paid their direct taxes to the government there is also VAT on most goods and services as well as some products having a special duty impose don them, these charges make things more expensive and result in people giving yet more of their money in tax. If someone does borrow money from a bank then they have to pay it back, usually with interest thus using up more of their salary.
The UK is one of the worst countries in Europe for personal debt; people are borrowing more and more. I will wager than most of the Slovak population are not crippled by credit card or loan repayments, because many of them won't have either of these things. There are many people in Britain who would quite happily trade places with someone from Eastern Europe if it meant they didn't have the ridiculous amount of debt many in the UK do.
@kinc
I am not awfully sure what you meant in your last post. You state that Great Britain used to rule a quarter of the planet then you accuse the Scots of hating 'us', presumably this is in reference to the English as opposed to Great Britain as your post would seem to suggest.
I would like to point out that I am Scottish, but I consider myself first and foremost British and I have absolutely no ill feeling towards the English.
Great Britain as part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland did indeed rule one quarter of the planet and it is interesting to see how it managed to achieve this. Direct military conquest was often used to secure new territory and it is an important point to make that relative to their populations, Ireland, Scotland and Wales contributed more men to the British army than England did. The Celtic nations were over represented in the British armed forces one could say. Irish, Scottish and Welsh troops marched and fought alongside English troops and administrators and politicians from the Celtic nations also played a large part in running the British Empire.
The sad fact today is that we are ashamed of our Empire and all that it achieved. Everyone focuses on the negative aspects of the British Empire, certainly it is extremely important to recognise that some extremely awful things happened in the Empire, but we should also remember all the good that was achieved.
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[ This Message was edited by: scotsboyuk on 2004-05-21 17:35 ]
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