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WhyBe Posts: > 500


On 2008-04-26 14:13:42, max_wedge wrote:
sounds promising



That something newer and better would come out? Go figure... Never would've guessed

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Posted: 2008-04-26 19:57:19
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

no, I meant promising as it may mean tv out support and significantly better hardware.

I'm not an idiot, I'm quite aware that new versions of things are "usually" better, though I can't see much reason to drop an N95 in favour of an N96...
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Posted: 2008-04-27 04:01:27
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WhyBe Posts: > 500

What's the benefit of a TVout? Is it used to play video files on a TV screen, sort of like a portable media player?

Also, there are several new phones coming to the market that have TV capability. Does this mean they simply have a TV tuner built in or is there some new media standard that's been developed that is used to stream the TV data?

[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-04-27 07:05 ]

[ This Message was edited by: WhyBe on 2008-04-27 18:39 ]
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Posted: 2008-04-27 08:03:40
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Yakkaimono Posts: 425

TV-Out means you can connect your device through a cinch, scart or s-video to your TV and playback your media files on it.
It's the same function like that of a camcorder which you can connect to the TV to watch your videos that you've made.
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Posted: 2008-04-27 08:56:37
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max_wedge Posts: > 500


On 2008-04-27 08:03:40, WhyBe wrote:
There are several new phones coming to the market that have TV capability. Does this mean they simply have a TV tuner built in or is their some new media standard that's been developed that is used to stream the TV data?


there are several new TV techs coming out. DTV free to air programming aimed at mobile phones is coming (and phones with compatible free-to-air receivers), also there are some handsets with DTV receivers for the current free to air DTV broadcasts.

Pay TV on mobiles is usually delivered via gprs (data), but in deals with operators where you subscribe to a channel and the gprs useage is covered in the monthly subscription payment.

This method simply uses the built in browser to stream video to your handset over a gprs connection.

The most likely technology to prevail imho is the gprs streaming method, especially as subscription prices come down. There are some practical issues (both technical and economic) that may prevent DTV free to air take off. Firstly manufacturers may be finding DTV receivers hard to miniturise. Also Operators are probably pressuring manufacturers to disgard DTV development in favour of improved network speeds for HDTV delivery over mobile internet. Operators are value adding and one of the extra values you get with a provider now is TV. If a provider can offer HDTV they will have an advantage so operators are vying for the first in line position to deliver HDTV. Obviously they want to deliver it over their own networks (not create new HDTV broadcast networks) so I think it's possible that Pay HDTV will win out over free to air DTV.

HOWEVER, if I'm wrong, and I hope I am, the free to air industry and advertisers will lobby more effectively than operators expect and gain a foothold in the DTV delivery market. They could do this by making deals with manufacturers to provide handsets with DTV receivers to be sold as "DTV" ready devices. If enough of the public take up these handsets in order to watch free tv with ads (which we all do at home anyway, why not on a mobile sometimes too?), the phenomenon may spread.

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Posted: 2008-04-27 13:56:19
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WhyBe Posts: > 500

I think I would prefer the data streaming method. I don't want to go back to cell phones with antennas sticking out of the top, nor do I want to watch commercials. Free air TV is prone to bad reception.
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Posted: 2008-04-27 22:43:16
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max_wedge Posts: > 500

I think the data streaming method will always be available, even if free to air mobile broadcasts become common
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Posted: 2008-04-28 03:28:32
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brorzan Posts: 114

I got to play with the X1 today. It was a working example, but it was just an ordinary Windows Mobile version inside. I guess they are still working pretty hard to get all the Sony Ericsson software in it.

The build quality was really good. It felt a lot smaller in the hand then it looks in all the pictures. The keyboard was easy to use, and I was told it will have צהו for the swedish market.

I think this will be the replacement after my P1i, but I will have to try a full working version to be sure.


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Posted: 2008-04-28 13:39:02
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i-am-andrew Posts: 42

I've got a question if someone who's used the X1 can answer please, apologies if it's already been asked/answered - I read the first 15 pages and the last 3 and decided just to ask:

Can you open the the phone and then sit it on the desk and type on it or is the screen part heavy enough to make it topple backwards?

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Posted: 2008-04-28 14:05:15
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karlosperu Posts: > 500

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