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solidsingh Posts: > 500

why would he be hurt that the quran has not been changed, its no skin off his nose
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Posted: 2005-10-21 11:48:16
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dealer3 Posts: > 500

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On 2005-10-20 23:00:19, PeterKay wrote:
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On 2005-10-20 21:55:42, solidsingh wrote:
muslims tried to burn our holy book a long time ago..



The Holy Quran gets burnt all over the world. But if the holy Quran is in peoples hearts totally verse by verse then burning the holy books is not the end of the faith. If Hitler was to burn all the Holy Qurans all over the word for example, it does not mean that it's the end o the Quran as thousands possibly millions of humans around the world know it verse by verse. Just here in my locality within a 20 mile radias i know at least 200-300 students who know the full Quran by memory. Imagine how many know it all over the world.

This is the beauty of The Holy Quran, when Almighty Allah says he will look after it he means it.

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[ This Message was edited by: PeterKay on 2005-10-20 22:25 ]

like peterkay says solid...
altough people try the Qur'aan will always be in its orignal version...
many people like myself know it off by heart...word to word...verse to verse...front to back...
whereas many of the other scriptures which muslims should and do believe are also the word of God have been changed and that is the reason why muslims dnt follow fully other holy books...
e.g.
muslims belive the Holy Bible WAS sent down by god to Jesus (peace be upon him) however we belive and know that it has been changed as there are many contrdictions within it...and God doesnt make mistakes, so the Bible has been alterred which is why many many people know the Holy Qur'aan off by heart...
hope that answers your questions and confusions
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Posted: 2005-10-21 12:15:02
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PeterKay Posts: > 500

100% correct.

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Posted: 2005-10-21 12:50:11
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joebmc Posts: > 500

Muhammad couldn't read or write could he?
So he recited the Quran to people who then wrote it down for him.
So how could he have verified its truth?


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Posted: 2005-10-21 14:04:55
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PeterKay Posts: > 500

Muhammad (pbuh) did have memory, soon as a verse was revealed via angel Gabrael it was written down by the Companions of The Holy Prophet (pbuh).

@Joe, whether you believe it or not The Quran has not changed. If you don't want to believe it don't but us Muslims do believe this and its a fact.

Why is it so painful to know that the Quran is still the same?

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Posted: 2005-10-21 15:04:56
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solidsingh Posts: > 500

sorry did i miss the bit where joe was in pain knowing that the quran hasnt changed?
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Posted: 2005-10-21 15:41:49
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PeterKay Posts: > 500

Verse 29 from Chapter 39 from the only revelation not to have changed states:

We have put forth for men, in this Quran every kind of Parable, in order that they may receive admonition.

Amazing Miracles from The Holy Quran:

Dunia (one name for life) 115.
Aakhirat (one name for the life after this world) 115

Malaika (Angels) 88
Shayteen (Satan) 88

Life 145
Death 145

Benefit 50
Corrupt 50

People 50
Messengers 50

Eblees (king of devils) 11
Seek refuge from Eblees 11

Museebah (calamity) 75
Thanks ! 75

Spending (Sadaqah) 73
Satisfaction 73

People who are mislead 17
Dead people 17

Muslimeen 41
J Jihad 41

Gold 8
Easy life 8

Magic 60
Fitnah (dissuasion) 60

Zakat (Taxes Muslims pay to the poor) 32
Barakah (Increasing or blessings of wealth) 32

Mind 49
N Noor 49

Tongue 25
S Sermon 25

Desite 8
Fear 8

Speaking publicly 18
Publicising 18

Hardship 114
Patience 114

Muhammad 4
Sharee'ah (Muhammed's teachings) 4

Imam(A.S.)= 12 ,
The word Imam is mentioned 12 times in the Quran.

Man 24
Woman 24

And amazingly enough have a look how many times

the following words appear:

Salat (prayer)5 , Month 12 , Day 365 ,

Sea 32 , Land 13
Sea + land = 32+ 13= 45
Sea = 32/45*100q.=71.11111111%
Land = 13/45*100 = 28.88888889%
Sea + land 100.00%

Modern science has only recently proven that the water covers
71.111% of the earth, while the land covers 28.889%.

Is this a coincidence? Question is that

Who taught Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) all this?

Reply automatically comes in mind that

ALMIGHTY ALLAH taught him.

Which other book on this planet has this kind of miracle?

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Posted: 2005-10-21 16:38:45
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dealer3 Posts: > 500

so much evidence in so much detail...


[ This Message was edited by: dealer3 on 2005-10-21 15:47 ]
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Posted: 2005-10-21 16:47:10
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scotsboyuk Posts: > 500

Isn't there codes in the Torah and the Bible? I believe there was a U.S. military committee set up to examine apparently predicative codes found in either the Torah or the Bible.
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Posted: 2005-10-21 16:48:35
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PeterKay Posts: > 500

How much more proof can someone want regarding the truth but if there is a veil over their eyes, what can we do?

Verse 22 from Chapter 39 states:

Is one whose heart Allah has opened to Islam, so that he has received Enlightenment from Allah, no better than one hard-hearted? Woe to those whose hearts are hardened against celebrating the praises of Allah. they are manifestly wandering in error!

Great words from our Creator, 'wander' in this world as you wish but you are in serious error. How long are you going to live? possibly 70 years or max 100 years? If you fail to realise the truth then you are surely in manifest error as The Almighty One has stated in the verse above. Life if a short journey for mankind, every living soul will taste death and then comes the eternal life which has been promised for all. Some will be in Hell Fire and Some will be under Gardens of Bliss and happiness.

I pray to Almighty Allah that he saves us ALL from Hell Fire and i pray he makes us all realise the truth before it's too late.

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Posted: 2005-10-21 16:55:14
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