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Muhammad-Oli Posts: > 500

Cheers Lightspeed_x and S4k1s. Will make a note for next time! Unfortunately it was about 3am and I didn't have access to the manual so I couldn't read it.
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Posted: 2012-06-24 04:09:55
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randomuser Posts: > 500

I checked out the Samsung Galaxy S3 in a store last week and what I observed really shocked me
First just checked the performance, didn't seem much faster than my XS at all. At best, its slightly faster.

Next I decided to compare the screen against my XS. And boy was I shocked . I knew the Xperia S screen was better but I didn't expect the difference to be so vast. I played a Samsung 1080p demo video on both (same vid) and boy was the Galaxy S3 screen dim and on the whole dull with not much fine detail !. Xperia S was way sharper and details very crystal clear on it compared to the S3. And everyone else in the store agreed the XS was way better as well, even the Samsung rep ( Well she was a secret Sony fanGIRL anyway )
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2012-06-24 07:45 ]

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Posted: 2012-06-24 08:45:11
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admad Posts: > 500


On 2012-06-24 01:44:53, S4k1s wrote:

On 2012-06-24 00:17:11, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
What are you supposed to do if your Xperia S freezes up? The non-removeable battery means you can't rip it out and restart like with other phones. Last night my Xperia S froze under some very light internet usage and I couldn't do anything but wait for the battery to run out.

Now it's on charge and the only sign of life it is showing is the red charge LED is on. It won't start up. Is my Xperia S dead?

EDIT: Ok, I think the battery was just very dead. It just suddenly flashed into life. Still... is there any way to avoid scary moments like this?
[ This Message was edited by: Muhammad-Oli on 2012-06-23 23:19 ]

You are supposed to read the (f) manual.

At page 133 (Eng) it says

To force restart your phone
1 Press and hold both the volume up key and the power key for five seconds.
2 After your phone vibrates once, release the keys. The phone restarts
automatically.

To force a phone shutdown
1 Press and hold both the volume up key and the power key for 10 seconds.
2 After your phone vibrates three times, release the keys. The phone turns off
automatically.


Hmm I wonder if that would work anyway, after all, when phone freezes, means it can't really accept any command, just like on PC, we can press and hold ctrl+alt+del many times, it still don't guarantee restart. The one and only true restart is to cut off the power for short time (remove the battery or press "restart" button). Does this mean Xperia S doesn't have an restart button, and the only means to do so is this lame combination of keys and hope it will work?
[ This Message was edited by: admad on 2012-06-24 08:50 ]

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Posted: 2012-06-24 09:50:13
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xenia Posts: 363

What about timescape? Is it new like in 3dshell?
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Posted: 2012-06-24 11:11:11
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Muhammad-Oli Posts: > 500


On 2012-06-24 09:50:13, admad wrote:

On 2012-06-24 01:44:53, S4k1s wrote:

On 2012-06-24 00:17:11, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
What are you supposed to do if your Xperia S freezes up? The non-removeable battery means you can't rip it out and restart like with other phones. Last night my Xperia S froze under some very light internet usage and I couldn't do anything but wait for the battery to run out.

Now it's on charge and the only sign of life it is showing is the red charge LED is on. It won't start up. Is my Xperia S dead?

EDIT: Ok, I think the battery was just very dead. It just suddenly flashed into life. Still... is there any way to avoid scary moments like this?
[ This Message was edited by: Muhammad-Oli on 2012-06-23 23:19 ]

You are supposed to read the (f) manual.

At page 133 (Eng) it says

To force restart your phone
1 Press and hold both the volume up key and the power key for five seconds.
2 After your phone vibrates once, release the keys. The phone restarts
automatically.

To force a phone shutdown
1 Press and hold both the volume up key and the power key for 10 seconds.
2 After your phone vibrates three times, release the keys. The phone turns off
automatically.


Hmm I wonder if that would work anyway, after all, when phone freezes, means it can't really accept any command, just like on PC, we can press and hold ctrl+alt+del many times, it still don't guarantee restart. The one and only true restart is to cut off the power for short time (remove the battery or press "restart" button). Does this mean Xperia S doesn't have an restart button, and the only means to do so is this lame combination of keys and hope it will work?
[ This Message was edited by: admad on 2012-06-24 08:50 ]



Yep I guess we have to hope it works. When mine froze last night, the screen and transparent strip were both lit and no input made any difference. I wish I had known to try the reset key combination then!
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Posted: 2012-06-24 12:00:14
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Tsepz_GP Posts: > 500


On 2012-06-24 08:45:11, randomuser wrote:
I checked out the Samsung Galaxy S3 in a store last week and what I observed really shocked me
First just checked the performance, didn't seem much faster than my XS at all. At best, its slightly faster.

Next I decided to compare the screen against my XS. And boy was I shocked . I knew the Xperia S screen was better but I didn't expect the difference to be so vast. I played a Samsung 1080p demo video on both (same vid) and boy was the Galaxy S3 screen dim and on the whole dull with not much fine detail !. Xperia S was way sharper and details very crystal clear on it compared to the S3. And everyone else in the store agreed the XS was way better as well, even the Samsung rep ( Well she was a secret Sony fanGIRL anyway )
[ This Message was edited by: randomuser on 2012-06-24 07:45 ]



Even next to a GS2 the GS3 isnt that much faster. I think we're at a point where there's not much that can be added in terms of speed anymore, these phones are already seriously fast, where it begins to matter is for how long it stays like that though, after you've loaded the apps, games and media you want and have had it for a few months, this is where im interested in seeing how the Sonys do in ICS, as with the old ones the launcher would have to reload and RAM management would go downhill and a format would be needed eventually, im hearing a lot of horror stories with Arc S on ICS, i hope the NXT phones like the XS wont do this.
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Posted: 2012-06-24 12:00:18
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RandomCarpet Posts: 202


On 2012-06-24 12:00:14, Muhammad-Oli wrote:

On 2012-06-24 09:50:13, admad wrote:

On 2012-06-24 01:44:53, S4k1s wrote:

On 2012-06-24 00:17:11, Muhammad-Oli wrote:
What are you supposed to do if your Xperia S freezes up? The non-removeable battery means you can't rip it out and restart like with other phones. Last night my Xperia S froze under some very light internet usage and I couldn't do anything but wait for the battery to run out.

Now it's on charge and the only sign of life it is showing is the red charge LED is on. It won't start up. Is my Xperia S dead?

EDIT: Ok, I think the battery was just very dead. It just suddenly flashed into life. Still... is there any way to avoid scary moments like this?
[ This Message was edited by: Muhammad-Oli on 2012-06-23 23:19 ]

You are supposed to read the (f) manual.

At page 133 (Eng) it says

To force restart your phone
1 Press and hold both the volume up key and the power key for five seconds.
2 After your phone vibrates once, release the keys. The phone restarts
automatically.

To force a phone shutdown
1 Press and hold both the volume up key and the power key for 10 seconds.
2 After your phone vibrates three times, release the keys. The phone turns off
automatically.


Hmm I wonder if that would work anyway, after all, when phone freezes, means it can't really accept any command, just like on PC, we can press and hold ctrl+alt+del many times, it still don't guarantee restart. The one and only true restart is to cut off the power for short time (remove the battery or press "restart" button). Does this mean Xperia S doesn't have an restart button, and the only means to do so is this lame combination of keys and hope it will work?
[ This Message was edited by: admad on 2012-06-24 08:50 ]



Yep I guess we have to hope it works. When mine froze last night, the screen and transparent strip were both lit and no input made any difference. I wish I had known to try the reset key combination then!



Of course it works, it's still a hardware reset. There is absolutely no reason to doubt that it will work
The RESET button on (older) PCs does not cut the power either, it sends an NMI (non-maskable interrupt) to the system and the button combination for resetting the XPERIA S uses the same mechanism, it has nothing to do with the Ctrl+Alt+Del mechanism.
[ This Message was edited by: RandomCarpet on 2012-06-24 11:41 ]

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Posted: 2012-06-24 12:20:33
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doministry Posts: > 500

Yes of course this restart method works.
I can confirm that.
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Posted: 2012-06-24 12:36:11
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S4k1s Posts: > 500

Pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del = software reset while pressing a reset button/key = hardware reset.

The volume up/power key combo on the Xperia S is a hardware reset and will therefore always work as expected :]

And yes it works, I have "tried" both
[ This Message was edited by: S4k1s on 2012-06-24 13:02 ]

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Posted: 2012-06-24 14:02:13
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Muhammad-Oli Posts: > 500

Okay so the list has been updated:

http://talk.sonymobile.com/thread/42096

My SI number is in there but I plugged my phone into my laptop and it says I have the latest software still. How do these work? Does it mean sometime today I will get the update or what?

EDIT: Should I be concerned that my SI number from the back of my phone does not match any of the numbers shown in the service menu? My SI number is apparently 1257-0884, but that's not mentioned here at all:


[ This Message was edited by: Muhammad-Oli on 2012-06-25 10:37 ]

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Posted: 2012-06-25 11:28:04
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